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I'm probably the lowest paid person in the whole thread. 2015 - $40,000 USD - remote for a small company 2017 - $32,000 USD - on-site for a tiny company 2018 - $33,000 USD - remote for another small company I was asked what my current salary is during one of my on-site interviews at FAANG. I had to put on a poker face and lie about it.
Maybe. Where do you live?
I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…
People in the US almost always quote salary in terms of gross amounts - so if someone makes $200k, that's before tax. But it's not including the employer taxes. I.e. their paycheck will show $16,666 per month at the top line, a bunch of state, federal, maybe local taxes, disability and social security (also basically taxes), etc. and then roughly $10,500 at the bottom line depending on your situation.\ Edit: sometime…
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Perhaps the guy is really good/ambitious? I've had to deal with the stigma of being "above average", and it bothers me when I hear stuff like this. This sort of thinking stops people who have the drive to do something, and it makes them delay their enthusiasm until others feel they deserve a chance. That's just terrible in my opinion. And it's probably part of the reason why so many young people start a startup or go…
Even if it is a good developer, I don't believe the qualities of senior developer are being acquired so quickly. Do you really need people lying to you that you are senior to make you feel motivated? Ok I can do that, but I think it's unhealthy for you and for the industry. What do you want to convey when you write >Senior Most of the people say they were promoted so their business can sell them as senior. That's BS.…
So here's where I have my issue. Why can't someone acquire those qualities quickly? Why should your belief be factored in when gauging someone's expertise? I say, let's just look at their abilities and then decide. You may be surprised at how quickly some people pick up certain skills!
> Most of the people say they were promoted so their business can sell them as senior. That's BS. I would not like to work with those businesses. Keep calling yourselves seniors.
Here I agree with you. Random titles for the sake of duping people make no sense either and are potentially harmful.
> ps. I dealt with the same stigma, and I would feel ashamed when I joined a team where all the devs were 35+ with 10+ YOE and I would call myself the same title as they did. (I was 21 in this example, with 5 years of professional experience). Am I too humble?
I would say yes. If you are able to perform the same tasks as them, with the same/better level of finesse, then the only differentiator is age. Why shouldn't you have the same pay packet/title/respect? I believe age is generally positively correlated with experience (i.e. more age = more experience), but I feel it is not really correlated with insight (more age != better insight). Thus, sometimes, younger people can have better ideas and inputs than their older colleagues and deserve the 'senior' title as much as someone that's been working 30+ years, in my opinion.
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The "senior" title is not about the length of your tenure. It's about your ability to independently solve difficult problems and provide leadership to those around you.
The word itself implies more experience than others. More experience is usually correlated to length of your tenure. But yes I agree, other qualities of senior developers include what you wrote. Just being a devils advocate here: I was 14 leading the school programming club and I thought I solved really difficult issue setting up gentoo. Senior at 14?
Throwaway account. I'm based out of a smaller town with a low cost of living in the north east. 2004 - first job at non tech company - $37.5k 2005 - switched to web design company - $40k 2006 - same company, minor raise - $42k 2007 - same company, minor raise - $44k 2008 - switch company, "senior" dev - $70k 2009 - same company, performance raise - $75k 2010 - switch companies - same pay - $75k 2011 - major performan…
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Seems like it's more important to change titles than company according to your history. To be honest I'm a bit offended you consider yourself senior with 2 years of experience.
I got promoted to "senior" developer less than 6 months out of university because my employer wanted to inflate the credibility of his consulting business. Job titles aren't standardised and can be pretty meaningless between organisations.
Experience and output matter. I can't imagine interviewing someone and asking about the current job title.
Has this person managed people? Lead teams? Done good work? Great. Title doesn't really matter for that.
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Not everyone needs a Macbook (or a car) :)
Not everyone needs to pay for housing either, but most do. Point is, cost of living isn't just about groceries on the farmers' market.
Also the parent was stating "for example" which implies there are other factors.
Wow, I'm actually shocked on seeing the low salaries on here. Having been on the hiring side for small projects (using mostly Upwork), I have had a really hard time finding quality for Maybe I'd have better luck hiring someone full time for $50k, and just fill the pipeline? Would love any thoughts on best moves here.
Here's a thought. I'm interested in picking up some contracting work again and my recurring work rate is $50/hr. I'm a senior developer who currently does Sysadmin, dbadmin, and leads development and architecture of our start up's software. Oh I just realized ycomb doesn't have plans capability. Could you PM me on Reddit where my username is homebrewingcoder .
I studied at UWaterloo and had many internships from 2007-2010 for which I forget the pay I was making, but I remember all of my full-time amounts (I started with around 2 years of work experience): 2012-2013: RIM/Blackberry in Waterloo, Canada: CAD 70,000, no bonus or stock, 15 days of vacation or so, 40h per week, software developer 2014-2016: YourGolfTravel in London, UK: GBP 41,000 first year, GBP 43,000 second y…
Huh, it's good to know Telcos in Canada will pay Software People well.
I worked in Software for a wholly owned subsidiary of Bell and the IT staff were paid a tiny fraction of your US salary.
2015 - mid-level at employer A - $80k
2016 - Sr Y at employer A - $95k
2017 - Sr Y at employer B - $105k
2018 - Sr Y at employer C - $130k base, $60k bonus plan, $100k RSU
2018 - Sr X at employer D - $190k base, 15% bonus plan, $100k RSU