While this is a good thing, it's not nearly sufficient to stop climate catastrophe.
Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
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Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
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> 98 Ford Escort ZX2 to a Jeep Grand Cherokee and the handling is just as good if not better Unless the Escort was broken this seems too rose tinted a view. Large SUVs like that may be comfortable but they definitely don't handle well.
What are some specific things that should feel different? Turning, merging, accelerating (especially with overdrive off) all feel great. Turning radius isn't bad at all. Only thing is you can't take tight corners super fast unless you want to flip over.
> Only thing is you can't take tight corners super fast unless you want to flip over.
This is what is usually called "handling". The other things you describe are driving comfort or something like that. "Handling" usually means the dynamic characteristics of the car that would make it fast around the turns in a track for example. The large mass at a high center of gravity makes all SUVs pretty bad at this.
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I get 49 MPG in mixed mode driving on a Euro III emissions compliant diesel every day. Newer diesels are even more efficient. And I don't spare the accelerator either.
Euro 3 means you're probably not eligible to enter a good chunk number of European city centres - and for good reason. As for MPG are you talking US gallons or imperial? Also what's your car's segment?
U. S. gallons. My car is a large luxury performance sportwagon.
There are no cities with full bans on Euro III diesels or any diesel yet that I'm aware of or been denied entry in Sweden, and those few cities in Germany that do have them have only implemented partial restrictions.
The bans are not real, it's all just political maneuvering in order to get cheap votes.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
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I get 49 MPG in mixed mode driving on a Euro III emissions compliant diesel every day. Newer diesels are even more efficient. And I don't spare the accelerator either.
Do you trust Bosch and your vehicle manufacturer to be honest to you, when they lie to your government?
I do, because my manufacturer is a supercool Japanese company. Japanese diesels for life!
I trust physics and chemistry, that's what I trust: when you elongate the exhaust manifold and manage to cool the exhaust down enough, you end up not even needing to inject Urea and still have an Euro VI compliant diesel.
It's the only company selling diesel passenger vehicles in Japan right now, with such a good motor that it's beloved by taxi drivers there. Which company is it, and what is the engine called?
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That's kind of a bad comparison because the Ford F-Series (or any other pickup platform) is many different vehicles under one name.
basically in europe there are not a lot of pickups to none out there. in europe there is a trend for SUVs at the moment, but besides that we mostly buy limousines.
Indeed but it's funny that most SUVs are (what I'd call) fake SUVs. They look beefy and big but they have a 1.6 liter engine and can still only pull 1200-1400 kg (like the Hyundai ix35). And then there are the real ones that may at first glance look the same but easily pull up to or over 2400 kg (Volvo xc90 versions).
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
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"Same people who footed the bill for petrol/gas stations?" That would be me, and I don't want to foot that bill, because at a gas station I can fill up the tank in under five minutes, and at a recharging station I'd have to wait a minimum of half an hour, so I wouldn't be getting the same level of service as I do today. As far as my wallet and especially my time (which is far more expensive) are concerned: no!
You are out of luck then. It is the direction the market and governments are headed in.
"The needs of many outweigh the needs of few?"
I've heard such rhetoric before; it did not end well.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#357Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Same people who footed the bill for petrol/gas stations?" That would be me, and I don't want to foot that bill, because at a gas station I can fill up the tank in under five minutes, and at a recharging station I'd have to wait a minimum of half an hour, so I wouldn't be getting the same level of service as I do today. As far as my wallet and especially my time (which is far more expensive) are concerned: no!
I guess you'll need just need to get the bus when you cant get a fossil fuel vehicle any more. Good luck. P.S. 350kw fast chargers are typically being advertised as zero to 80% charge in 15 minutes - cars that can accept these chargers are due in the next couple of years from Audi, Ford, BMW et al so mainstream "ordinary" cars as well as exotica like Porsche. I cant find any stats online, but I have read that the ave…
"I guess you'll need just need to get the bus when you cant get a fossil fuel vehicle any more. Good luck."
A bus also needs diesel (:-D)
My car is old enough that I could make my own biodiesel with the electricity from solar panels and run on it, so when the rest are stuck, I'll always have fuel. Even if nuclear war hits.
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> 1 mile(!!!) of electric range, Other people have talked about this, but I'm wondering if the change to having electric drive motors and an engine just for generating electricity is more efficient and easier on the engine. (regenerative breaking aside)
The Chevy Volt is like this -- drivetrain is electric, gas engine is just a generator.
What you are describing is a “series hybrid”. The Chevy Volt is not a pure series hybrid, it has an elaborate mechanism to connect the gas engine to the wheels when it is efficient to do so. For example highway cruise where the gas engine can run near its optimal rpm.
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Are you sure? There are cars that are that efficient, but as an average ? In real life?
The average European car is very different from the average US car. The most sold cars in the US are the Ford F series, in the EU it's the VW Golf and similar hatchbacks. There are a lot of forces at play here, among others tax rates (which cause the F150 to get bigger and European cars to get lighter), fuel prices, culture (in Europe a big truck won't impress anyone, you get other types of cars for that), average an…
Because Finland is sparsely populated (and long) for an EU country, road trips are a thing here, especially for a winter holiday to Lapland. We even have a company advertise car ferries to Germany, so some must fantasize about a road trip!
Even then, there are no American size cars. Most sold cars are European or Japanese station wagons.
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Car manufacturers are now looking at using 48v powered turbochargers to eliminate turbo lag. I wonder if that could be seen as an electrification of the powertrain?
A turbocharger is a funny shaped air compressor. So let's put an air compressor in the trunk and pipe the air to the intake manifold. And if there car is a hybrid, that battery can power the compressor too.
Actually the centrifugal compressor is pretty common in many applications, so more typical than funny looking.