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Would You Let the I.R.S. Prepare Your Taxes? (2015)

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Re: Would You Let the I.R.S. Prepare Your Taxes? (2015)

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The IRS has actually run trials like this in the past. Very successful, at least for simply W2-based returns, since most people's taxable transactions get reported by companies anyway (i.e., mortgages/interest, other income, etc.) and most people use the standardized deduction. Inuit and Quicken subsequently lobbied to end those programs and even bar the IRS from running similar programs...

Fun fact. Intuit spent just $2.4 million on lobbying per year and $775,000 on campaign contributions: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000026667&c... . If their lobbying dollars are what caused the IRS to stop those programs, you could "outbid" them with just a Kickstarter. Intuit and friends are a red herring: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/grover-norquist/grover-norqui...

They are not a red herring. California tried to do this, and its a Democratic state, not swayed by Grover Norquist, but Intuit blocked it.

https://www.npr.org/2017/03/29/521954033/stanford-professor-...

Re: Would You Let the I.R.S. Prepare Your Taxes? (2015)

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Itemizing deductions is totally different from reporting cost basis on a stock sale.

Right, I was just pointing out that OPs case is in the minority of tax filers and that making this option available would benefit a lot of tax-filers and wouldn't prevent OP from filing their taxes as they normally would.

I'm not sure people with RSU's are as small of a minority as you think. They're a fairly common form of compensation.

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Canada sends you an assessment after you file letting you know their initial thoughts on how much you owe. You can still get audited to see if there were any omissions or factual errors - e.g. Your home office isn't really an office.

but don't you still have to fill out a tax form? in that case, isn't that the same as in US?.

You're actually able to electronically fetch all the data that the various companies (employer, broker, bank, etc) report to the CRA anyway. All you have to do is check it and send.

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Flat tax doesn't even simplify anything. The problem with taxes is to determine what the taxable income is. Figuring out the tax rate is trivial once you have that, no matter what the curve is. Flat tax is just another attempt to give big tax breaks to higher incomes.

> Flat tax doesn't even simplify anything. Yes it does, depending on the implementation. There's a 2005 Economist article which does a good job of summarizing why[1]. BEGIN QUOTE Fewer brackets are simpler to administer, but one bracket is simplest of all. Under a pure flat tax, the taxman takes the same cut from the last dollar you earn that he took from the first. The appeal to high earners is obvious. But the admi…

That works fine for salaries and whatnot, but even without outright deductions, you would still have to compute net income in a lot of situations, including individual proprietorships and capital gains.

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Fun fact. Intuit spent just $2.4 million on lobbying per year and $775,000 on campaign contributions: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000026667&c... . If their lobbying dollars are what caused the IRS to stop those programs, you could "outbid" them with just a Kickstarter. Intuit and friends are a red herring: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/grover-norquist/grover-norqui...

I've been told by people that have been involved with lobbying that it's way cheaper than you'd expect. Almost a million in the right congressional races can buy you a lot of stalling in congress. Also, IMHO, few people have messed up US tax policy like Grover Norquist. Even if you don't agree with that particular humble opinion, he is, at the very least, a figure with his own agenda to push. He's far from an unbiase…

A million dollars can be an entire Congressional race in most of the country.

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>Set extremely low speeds that don't make sense on highways. Allow most people to go 10-15 above. I doubt people really speed because the limits have been set too low and the people know better what is an ideal speed limit. I think people_think_ they know better what the speed limit is, and/or reason "well if 60mph is okay, 75 mph can't be that bad, I'm barely speeding and I'm in a rush". At least, that's the attitud…

> If you were to raise the speed limit to 75mph, people would just use the same logic to drive 90mph instead. I've driven in parts of the country where the speed limit is 75 or even 80 and that wasn't my experience. There were not a lot of people blowing past me doing 95.

Drive on I25 north of Cheyenne WY on a Sunday, and I guarantee ~50% of out of state cars are going that speed.

Re: Would You Let the I.R.S. Prepare Your Taxes? (2015)

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Fun fact. Intuit spent just $2.4 million on lobbying per year and $775,000 on campaign contributions: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000026667&c... . If their lobbying dollars are what caused the IRS to stop those programs, you could "outbid" them with just a Kickstarter. Intuit and friends are a red herring: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/grover-norquist/grover-norqui...

They are not a red herring. California tried to do this, and its a Democratic state, not swayed by Grover Norquist, but Intuit blocked it. https://www.npr.org/2017/03/29/521954033/stanford-professor-...

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Re: Would You Let the I.R.S. Prepare Your Taxes? (2015)

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Anecdotally speaking, I've driven a lot and 75-80 is ideal speed for me. When I drove in texas where in certain areas, the speed limit is 80-85, I still drove around 80. Once you hit 85/90, a car just becomes too shaky/unstable feeling.

I think Ferrari, Porsche, et al would beg to differ. Most high end Mercedes, Audi or BMW cars are limited to 155 mph but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in ride quality between the top 50 mph of the range and the bottom 50. If your car gets shaky and unstable when you hit 90 mph then I'm sorry but you just don't have a very good vehicle.

you can't assume that most of the general population has these cars, though. a 2013 camry going 90 MPH is not something i want to be in, nor do i trust anyone going that fast to be in control of their vehicle and making high speed decisions

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When most Americans talk abou the autobahn like this they actually mean the sections without speed restrictions

So do Germans who want to get from one city to another exit the Autobahn and drive on surface streets to avoid the de-restricted sections? Of course not.

They just get into the correct lane.

Re: Would You Let the I.R.S. Prepare Your Taxes? (2015)

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True in theory, but virtually every mainstream "flat tax" that actually gets to the stage of having a concrete proposal acknowledges the need for deductions. I don't recall ever seeing a true flat tax.

There's flat tax proposals and implementations at every level of the economy in different countries, not all of them have to do with income tax. E.g. the case of the warm and cold chicken being taxed at different rates, as described in the linked Economist article. It's common in places with such a distinction in the tax code for some stores to sell packaged cold food clearly intended to be eaten on the go, and then…

This thread is specifically talking about tax plans from Republicans in the US Congress.
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