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How does ‘class-passing’ actually work?

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Post by workthrowaway27 »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #334
workthrowaway27 wrote: post #300

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This is absolutely true, and obvious to anyone open-minded who has spent time in those countries, but good luck trying to have any discussion about the downsides of immigration in the US without getting shouted down as a racist.

Unless your volunteering to deport your own ethic group to increase homogeneity (which you're obviously not) then you're probably advocating for the textbook definition of racism. Which may explain why you can't say that without being called a racist. Also, I'm not sure the facts back you up. Is the USA really more diverse than Canada? Is the UK really more diverse than Germany?

I didn't say anyone should be deported. I said immigration has downsides and you can't talk about it openly in the US.

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Post by afterburner »

ericd wrote: post #305
afterburner wrote: post #106

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> The only way to become wealthy is to spend less than you make. This is hilariously wrong.

Feel free to elaborate on why it's wrong. I don't mean spending less than you make at all times, and I don't mean "make" as in "earn at a wage-earning job", there are many more ways to make money than that. In the long term, your wealth is the money you've made (including capital gains), minus what you've spent. You might say that's completely obvious, but it helps some people to be reminded of it.

"Wealthy" and "wealth" mean different things.

You also used the word "only".

Your sentence read as "you can't become rich other than just saving on expenses." Maybe you can see how that is a really weird thing to say.

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Post by Veelox »

notabee wrote: post #349
Veelox wrote: post #345

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Using a kind of dubious site because it was the first one I found with the 63rd% of income [0]. That clocks in right at $79,954.00. I would say that a significant portion of that 63% is poor money management as opposed to lack of income. [0] https://dqydj.com/united-states-household-income-brackets-pe...

The link you provided shows percentile by household, not individual. Just clicking on the link on that page to go to individual brackets, suddenly 63% drops to 50,000/yr. That's not a terrible salary, but as expenses have gone up much more rapidly than wages for quite some time, it becomes feasible that that would be eaten up quickly by debt burden and cost of living in many places to where saving is difficult. https…

Didn't mean to switch between household and individual, good catch.

While part of my agrees with you that in some areas 50k/yr gets eaten up quickly we are looking at having $500 or $1000 on hand that is either 1% or 2% of annual income in savings. While I have sympathetic to a significant portion of the country ~20%-25% that cannot do that, I hard time believing 40% of Americans could not trim $500 off their expenses each year and save it.

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Post by nathanasmith »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #344
rsync wrote: post #287

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"I live in the U.S., but I think I'd prefer to live in one of the countries for losers." ... from the article: "Here is the list of the world’s top Loser Countries: (.nl, .de, .ch, .no, .dk)" As someone who travels to these countries frequently (rsync.net has a Zurich location) I can certainly get on board with the desire to move to Switzerland. It is a nicer country than the US. However, it is a ridiculous notion th…

Switzerland is hardly homogeneous. 29% of residents are foreign born, which is one of the highest in the developed world (double that of the US). It has four main languages with the largest of those only being the first choice for 60% of the population. If anything it is less homogeneous than the US.

>Switzerland is hardly homogeneous. 29% of residents are foreign born. If anything it is less homogeneous than the US.

85% of those "foreigners" are your fellow Europeans. It would be like me saying Florida is less homogeneous because some people from Utah moved there. Except Utah is further away from Florida than any country in Europe is from any other. Switzerland is quite homogeneous.

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