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Post by throwanem »

dagw wrote: post #342
unwind wrote: post #340

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Just out of curiosity, what do you expect to be able to use the wall for when it's not covered by the TV? Roll-up posters hung somewhere else that roll out to cover the same area?

what do you expect to be able to use the wall for when it's not covered by the TV? A bookshelf. I have a bookshelf on the wall doing what bookshelves do. And then I'll hang the TV 'roll' in front of one of the shelves and pull it down in front of the bookshelf when I want to use it.

You could do that with a projector, too, probably very well indeed for the cost of a similarly sized OLED display that rolls up like a projection screen. (Wouldn't be surprised if that OLED roll has a pretty limited lifespan, too, between all that physical stress and the way OLEDs degrade anyway.)

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Post by matwood »

epmaybe wrote: post #313
prawn wrote: post #88

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A family with any kids such that you're going through the bedtime routine after dinner, then exhausted and forget/avoid the dishes.

I know that my parents started making me do dishes around age 8 or 9, and I guess I hadn't really considered if that was normal or not until now. Is it normal?

It's normal. My parents didn't have a dishwasher until I moved out, so I was made to do it or help. Before remotes I also had to get up and turn the channel for my dad. All these time saving devices really help kids the most ;)

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Post by FLUX-YOU »

cdoxsey wrote: post #137

The next 20 years will be a constant stream of half broken robots and ai systems. At least until we either get them to actually work or we figure out how bad they are and go back to using people again. It will be like setting up video conferencing, except for everything. Your car will go to the wrong place because it failed to account for a leap second, thus breaking gps. Your fridge will put itself in eco mode becau…

Oh, don't forget they all will spy on you and send that back to the company.

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Post by matwood »

mikekchar wrote: post #94
mahmud wrote: post #51

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Am I the only one that washes dishes immediately after use? No need to even use the machine. Wash immediately after use, let them dry on rack, wipe and put away. Dishes and laundry are a total non-issue.

Edit: Interesting to see this get voted up and down. I suppose because it appears to have a holier-than-thou tone. I don't really feel that way because I struggled to learn this stuff the hard way. I'm just hopeful someone will feel encouraged to try it. Not the only one. Admittedly I don't have kids, but I'm familiar with family life and I don't think this is really that much of a problem. I think a lot of people su…

> Specifically: pots, knives and cutting boards should never be dirty. Get a knife board (or similar). Clean your knife and put it away every time you use it. The 2 seconds you save by putting your knife on the board (or other hazardous place) is not worth it. Pots should be cooking something, storing something, or spotless. Similarly, your board should be in use or clean.

This is what I do, but everything else goes in the dishwasher. :)

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Post by cagenut »

dogma1138 wrote: post #339
situationista wrote: post #331

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I found a hack for #1 (I'm an architect) - I fit houses with 2 dishwashers side by side. You simply move dishes from one to the other, and start it when it's full. Think of the dishwasher as a robotic closet that automatically washes your dishes.

It takes less than 5 min to take out the dishes from a full dishwasher even a large one. I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. Also I found even a better way and that is not to use the dishwasher at all besides after a dinner party or a large cooking session during the weekend. I live with my partner and it doesn’t take more than 10min to do the dishes at the end of each day without…

> I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be.

I downvoted but just to answer your question: INFINITY. INFINITY LAZY is the goal. Absolutely zero milliseconds worth of mindless toils would be my ideal number in life. That is the spec.

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Post by gnode »

pitaj wrote: post #209
erik_landerholm wrote: post #106

Don’t care! It’s the golden age of tvs! Oleds are a technology that’s actually living up to the hype. I have an lg wallpaper tv and you can roll it up! The new ones look even more flexible. One even rolls up into a box. Robots will catch up. The future of TVs is now!

I want my OLED monitors. I've been waiting for years for an OLED monitor, it's my dream. The closest thing is VA+Quantum Dot monitors, but they just aren't the same.

What do you want it for? I recently got an OLED TV which I'm now using as a monitor for games and video, and it's brilliant (although you might think otherwise if you have extraordinary latency demands). I also find the large size of the display more immersive than a conventional monitor.

I still use an LCD for static content (programming; web browsing; etc.) as I want to avoid burn in, but I don't really care about high contrast and wide colour gamut in that use case.

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Post by letsgetphysITal »

cagenut wrote: post #355
dogma1138 wrote: post #339

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It takes less than 5 min to take out the dishes from a full dishwasher even a large one. I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. Also I found even a better way and that is not to use the dishwasher at all besides after a dinner party or a large cooking session during the weekend. I live with my partner and it doesn’t take more than 10min to do the dishes at the end of each day without…

> I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. I downvoted but just to answer your question: INFINITY. INFINITY LAZY is the goal. Absolutely zero milliseconds worth of mindless toils would be my ideal number in life. That is the spec.

My girlfriend just bought dimming lamps for the living room so we can adjust the light levels in the evening.

She CAN NOT see the benefit of having wireless bulbs controlled by your phone for this purpose. Apparently this is "too lazy".

TOO LAZY. IS THAT A THING?!

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Post by baud147258 »

stordoff wrote: post #271
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #265

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You can hire people to do that for you, you know - very flexible, can do all the things, do them while you're out of the house.

For me there, the issue is trust (and that's not intended as a slight against the people who do that kind of work -- I have family members who used to do precisely that). I just would not feel comfortable having people doing work in my home whilst I wasn't there.

Also the price point is not quite the same as appliance.

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Post by Guest9812398 »

blhack wrote: post #15
bane wrote: post #5

Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

>foldimate: Here is a video of it working: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uay9hzwusk This looks like it would take quite a lot longer than just folding the clothes yourself.

Watching this video, it's clearly edited.

First off, the left and right video are completely different, the left isn't a zoomed in version of the right. If you go to 43 seconds, you can see the folded clothes do not match.

Secondly, it's not a continuous shot. There is a cut when the shirts are added to the bottom part of the machine at 25 seconds, and again at 51 seconds. You need to watch carefully, but it's pretty obviously something is not right about this video.

Also, the CES videos show the same pile of clothes appearing at the bottom, regardless of what order the clothes go in the machine. I would guess the machine doesn't yet fold clothes, or maybe it has issues with certain clothing like button up shirts.

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Post by teemwerk »

dogma1138 wrote: post #339
situationista wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found a hack for #1 (I'm an architect) - I fit houses with 2 dishwashers side by side. You simply move dishes from one to the other, and start it when it's full. Think of the dishwasher as a robotic closet that automatically washes your dishes.

It takes less than 5 min to take out the dishes from a full dishwasher even a large one. I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. Also I found even a better way and that is not to use the dishwasher at all besides after a dinner party or a large cooking session during the weekend. I live with my partner and it doesn’t take more than 10min to do the dishes at the end of each day without…

You're underestimating your particular circumstances, and forgetting a gamechanger: roommates. I can't even begin to count how many fights, squabbles, arguments disappeared when we got a dishwasher. The value of an empty sink shouldn't be taken for granted no matter your circumstances.
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