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Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#351
Something about this is sitting right with me.

I know Joe (the ousted CISO). I’ve known him for almost 15 years, and worked with him professionally in the past.

This is not like him. He was the most ethical lawyer I ever met. Everything was by the book. He cares about privacy. He cares about users. He’s prosecuted the worst of the worst.

Something here isn’t right.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

And I'd encourage any hiring manager to ask some pointed questions of anybody who has Uber on their resume. Maybe they're a good or naive person who just happened to end up in a bad place. But maybe they're willing to turn a blind eye to discrimination, harassment, or lawbreaking.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#353

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

I never quite know how to think about them. On the one hand, they’d changed an entire industry in a way that people wanted but was getting serious resistance from the entrenched players. They had to break a lot of rules and go around a lot of people with a whole lot of connections to get where they are and in the process made a lot of enemies. I expect blowback. I expect negative news. They essentially pulled it off…

AirBnb had to fight a very similar path and the only bad press I can remember about them was that tone deaf/ offensive political marketing campaign they had.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#354

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I propose a new law, similar to Godwin's. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Trump approaches 1"

You can't say anything approaching positive about Trump. You will be down voted. The vehement supporters of freedom of speech doesn't support this. Well, the irony.

the daily reminder that freedom of speech does not imply that anybody has to like what you have to say

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#355
post #4

Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

Good, it's important to judge a company of 10k people on one person's story. That's usually a great strategy. I'm not defending uber, but this kind of attitude is exactly what got Trump elected. You can't generalize and demonize entities based on one person's view.

You might have a point if this was a different company, but look at the context - it's Uber. Probably one of the outright most scummiest companies out there.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#356
post #4

Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

Good, it's important to judge a company of 10k people on one person's story. That's usually a great strategy. I'm not defending uber, but this kind of attitude is exactly what got Trump elected. You can't generalize and demonize entities based on one person's view.

> this kind of attitude is exactly what got Trump elected

Not really seeing the connection here

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#357

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Surely you are joking?? Why would you agree to such a thing?

There's a lot of things we as adults agree to where the consequences can be steep. This is one of the easier ones: we just show up on time. We plan accordingly and we, as responsible adults, manage to pull it off. That's not hard: so why not agree to such a thing? Another perspective on this is why should we expect someone else to bear the consequences of our failing to meet our responsibilities? If we're late pickin…

So you're in a car accident on the way and wake up in the hospital with a few thousand dollars in fines. Or better yet, pass out at home (in spite of being in good health; blood pressure can do weird things) with no witnesses and come to a few hours later.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#358

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

I never quite know how to think about them. On the one hand, they’d changed an entire industry in a way that people wanted but was getting serious resistance from the entrenched players. They had to break a lot of rules and go around a lot of people with a whole lot of connections to get where they are and in the process made a lot of enemies. I expect blowback. I expect negative news. They essentially pulled it off…

No excuses for a systemically misogynistic corporate culture. I deleted Uber. You probably should too.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/13/uber-ceo-...

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#359
post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never quite know how to think about them. On the one hand, they’d changed an entire industry in a way that people wanted but was getting serious resistance from the entrenched players. They had to break a lot of rules and go around a lot of people with a whole lot of connections to get where they are and in the process made a lot of enemies. I expect blowback. I expect negative news. They essentially pulled it off…

You can move fast and break things without being a jerk or a misogynist. They don't get an excuse because they mixed the two up.

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

#360

Something about this is sitting right with me. I know Joe (the ousted CISO). I’ve known him for almost 15 years, and worked with him professionally in the past. This is not like him. He was the most ethical lawyer I ever met. Everything was by the book. He cares about privacy. He cares about users. He’s prosecuted the worst of the worst. Something here isn’t right.

CSO/CISOs are basically there to be the fall person in the case of a data breach. Your job is basically to implement process and policy to the point of nearly breaking productivity, then get fired when that wasn't enough.
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