Another Slack clone that's not end-to-end encrypted. Why even bother?
Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#352Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…
You might be interested in Topicbox, which we (FastMail) have built for precisely this reason. We use Slack for our real-time comms, but we still used mailing lists for more thoughtful discussion and documenting decisions, so we made mailing lists unsucky:
It's still in soft-launch at the moment while we finish off a couple of key features that we identified in beta.
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
A common discussion I have with other developers. For a developer I'd say I'm a little more people minded than average, and a lot more big picture success oriented. And in both regards your personal productivity doesn't really matter. The biggest problem in software development is actually not per-coder-performance but that the right things get solved, and that the solution are actually good and quickly finished. Thi…
I agree with you completely on your main point, but you must admit that a person needs some time to concentrate in order to produce code. Even just 2 hours a day. Unfortunately, a lot of companies are starting to measure "time working" via "time on Slack." My company is one of them, but it works out for us because my team exists in multiple time zones (making the interruptible hours of the day fewer). This is not a p…
In-person has non-interrupting ways to get information about how busy someone looks. Chatting someone up at the water cooler is much different than someone at their desk, which is different still than someone who is looking through things with headphones on and a puzzled look on their face.
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does work in redmine[1] and that for years and the same as in github and Jira, using the #XXXX notation. [1]: http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/RedmineTextForm...
That does not let me create something from the wiki, only reference issues that already exist. EDIT: Specifically, allowing people who are primarily text driven to be reading a doc/wiki page, right click a sentence or phrase, then create an issue right from that screen, without leaving, and have them linked back and forth, is... seemingly obvious, yet I've not seen it done elsewhere. Someone else pointed out gitlab -…
There IS a Add-on for exactly that use case: https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/net.seibertmedia.c...
Disclaimer: I work for the Add-on developer
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm basically the opposite. I cannot stand email for day-to-day work discussion, because there is effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity. Email sits in the horrible middle road between synchronous (like a phone call) or asynchronous (like a physical mailed letter). I think email works well (and seems to be designed) for the latter use case, but at work there may be an expectation o…
Yeah I was another Slack-complainer until I joined an organisation without any sort of business-chat system. That's when my amnesia cleared up and I remembered just what a slog email is without a Slack-like. I remembered that email is used as chat when there's no proper chat system, that it's an unsearchable unstructured endless soup of important stuff, cat videos, unnecessary reply-all mashing, mysterious banishment…
Wait you think email is LESS searchable than Slack?
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
> effectively no way to distinguish messages by priority or time-sensitivity How do you do that with Slack?
Slack messages that notify you (mentions and DMs) should be for time-sensitive things. Obviously that can still be abused, but I think the social expectations are much clearer than when a team uses email for everything.
> but I think the social expectations are much clearer than when a team uses email for everything.
In my experience, this is typically the expectation to respond immediately regardless of the query.
Nope.
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#357Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…
matrix.org/riot.im (if you want open source protocol and client. it also has bridges to most others)
I'd like to try Matrix, but I can't get past the Jimmy Wales style begging that greets me on their home page.
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
None of the features you mention are useful for actually communicating and getting work done. Your concept of "better" is distinctly different from mine. In my world, software without completely useless and unnecessary features is better than bloatware. irssi + tmux + logging + grep works great for 100% of actual not-embedding-useless-cat-videos-to-avoid-having-to-actually-get-work-done use cases. In the interest of…
> None of the features you mention are useful for actually communicating and getting work done. I respectfully disagree. It's incredibly helpful to be able to video/voice call a coworker instead of typing back and forth. It's also incredibly helpful to be able to quickly past a screenshot of an issue you're seeing, or to paste a quick snippet of code, or log, with nice formatting. Yes, I could use my phone or another…
> It's incredibly helpful to be able to video/voice call a coworker [...]
In my experience it is pretty rare in software development to have the need for a voice/video call. There are use-cases but they are rare and better handled by a specific software.
> It's also incredibly helpful to be able to quickly past a screenshot of an issue you're seeing [...]
And also painful. Sometimes I get screenshots from terminal screens showing error messages and have to retype them when e.g. grepping for keywords in source.
> [...] quick snippet of code, or log, with nice formatting [...]
If it's short just blob it into the chat window. If it's long then please use some paste service, as screenshots of logs are a nightmare (see previous point).
> [...] but that's another step, another roadblock on the road to communication and understanding.
Why is there another step? You can have multiple programs, tabs, terminals, shells, sessions, etc. open at the same time.
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
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Phabricator has the wiki, code review, and ticketing systems tightly integrated. It's a clean, fast, and free alternative to JIRA. https://www.phacility.com
I'm a long time JIRA user who started using Phabricator last year for a side project (that has now become my main project). I didn't really have a major problem with JIRA, but we self hosted them on AWS, and the resource requirements of JIRA, Confluence, Fisheye etc. meant that we had to set up separate instances to stop them crashing all the time. Phabricator gives us the same functionality as all the Atlassian tool…
What the hell are people doing to their Jira instances that make them load that slowly? I've got a fairly busy instance at $dayJob with hundreds of users, 10+ addons, and some automation scripting, and it runs as fast as any webapp can be expected to.
There was no explicit performance tuning happening here, either. 1 instance of Jira talking to 1 instance of MySQL behind 1 instance of nginx on a modest VM.
I'm not doubting you, but this is a common enough complaint that I assume there's a footgun lying around that I've managed to luckily step over.
Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor
#360At least this is a better attempt than RingCentral's chat app which was a shameless, cheesy knock off of Slack.
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*I50CoGFK328HeWSvu...
