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Re: Android Oreo

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Would be nice if they added a switch to disable connecting to open wifi networks. Or at least to realize that the wifi is connected but its waiting for a sign in so internet traffic should still be routed through 4g.

It has that switch.

System Settings > Wi-Fi > Gear Icon > "Use open Wi-Fi automatically"

Re: Android Oreo

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Carriers generally have deals with other companies for preinstalled apps which may or may not still be active by the time it comes around for an update. Also they have to test the devices, but considering the sheer number of Android devices they probably prioritize new high end devices first. This problem is made worse on Verizon and Sprint which use CDMA 3G networks, as opposed to the worldwide GSM standard. Also th…

This is about cost: updates sometimes fail (incredible, I know), and carriers are the first place people go to get their phones back in working order. This kind of support is quite costly so carriers don't push too hard for updates to happen.

They want you renting a new phone from them every year. Dragging their feet on updates shifts sales to their newer lineup.

Re: Android Oreo

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Personally, I find it kind of ridiculous that new emojis are considered flagship features of mobile OS updates. I'd think that it would be possible to decouple emoji updates from kernel/security updates, so I imagine that Android/iOS tie them to the OS updates solely as a way to motivate non-technical users to update.

Mobile OS's aren't just for grumpy old people.

I'm younger than emojis themselves, to be perfectly honest, but I hardly think that an (incorrect) ad hominem makes my point any less valid.

Re: Android Oreo

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Project Treble is the most important thing in this release >The biggest change to the foundations of Android to date: a modular architecture that makes it easier and faster for hardware makers to deliver Android updates. With any luck, this will end the huge security/update problem Android has. Right now an update is dependent on the chip manufacturer's drivers, then the OEM adding them to the ROM with their custom "…

Except, of course, getting your hands on a phone that has Oreo. For instance, the Galaxy S8 is the hottest new thing on the market right now, and it launched with Nougat. It will probably be six months to a year before Samsung pushes an Oreo update to it, if at all.

LineageOS is the cure to all ills.

Re: Android Oreo

#357
This looks interesting:

"Linkable files: API that allows you to share files across the Internet via web links."

Will this mean that I don't have to download a pdf to view it? I wonder what this feature means.

Re: Android Oreo

#359
> Compatible with all Mopria-certified printers, which make up 97% of printers sold worldwide.

I wonder if every Mopria-certified printer prints anti-privacy tracking dots.

Re: Android Oreo

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post #72

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As I commented in another HN story, I don't believe OEMs and telecom operators will release updates, if Google doesn't force them to do so. They already admitted on the ADB Podcast that they don't want to remove the ability for OEMs and mobile operators to customize their forks of Android. We will still be forced to buy new devices even if they are VTS certified.

> VTS certified If it passed VTS it should be able to run AOSP. The new CTS will be an AOSP System image running their VTS passing "drivers". Even if your vendor doesn't push any updates. At least you should be able to run a number of newer versions of AOSP as long as Android doesn't deprecate those VTS drivers.

You've said this in a few different places, do you have a source for that? You are saying you could load AOSP on an S9 regardless of what Samsung does?

If so, this is indeed huge, but I have some serious doubts about it, perhaps because I have felt so very burned by Android so many times in this respect on anything but Nexus devices.

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