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Re: A profound apology

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post #327

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Actually, this is a good point. Uber subsidizes fares ~20% or so currently. Assuming they didn't used to do this, the payout to drivers seems like it would be about the same: 3.75 / 0.8 => 4.6875 (vs $4.90 originally) The per-minute fees are still quite a bit lower, admittedly: 0.65 / 0.8 => 0.8125 (vs $1.25 originally)

There's also the move where Uber Black drivers are forced to take Uber X fares. Refusing pickups has consequences after a certain number. In that case, the driver is certainly being paid less. https://pando.com/2014/09/04/uber-continues-to-screw-its-par... I think it's a valid complaint. He invested in the car based on a business model that changed underneath him. Uber may not be legally liable for that, and may have…

Oh for sure - I don't doubt the guy is upset, and clearly something caused that, there just seemed to be some kind of consensus that the actual driver receipts per mile/per minute on Uber Black had gone down given the numbers in the Bloomberg article which seemed to be drawing conclusions.

If the guy had yelled "You are making me accept Uber X fares which is making me make less money" then it would be easy to see where he's coming from if TK pushed back on that - anyways, it's just a technicality but it seems that TK may have actually been correct if all the guy was upset about was the reduction in Uber Black time/distance fees to drivers.

Re: A profound apology

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Don't confuse someone being successful because they're an asshole with someone being successful despite being an asshole.

Part of Steve Jobs success was attributed to the fact that he was an asshole not despite of it. Read his biography.

Anecdotally, I never considered working for Apple, because I made a rule for myself that I'd never work for an asshole [unless I was literally starving].

The closest I ever came was Dwight from my first job, but he was not directly in my chain of command, and Pat, who was above him, was a really cool guy, except for that one time when he completely ignored me in the elevator on the way up to me finding out that a bunch of people were getting laid off that day. I figured it out after I heard about the first one, and started packing.

Re: A profound apology

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"Some people don't like to take responsibility for their own shit, they blame everything in their life on somebody else."

The ungratefulness of this guy... saying this to one of your drivers, one of the people who is directly responsible for the success of your business.

Without him and the thousands like him, Travis would be nothing.

Re: A profound apology

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> People relied on Uber For future reference, that is always a bad idea no matter what the company.

Most people don't have the ability to choose not to rely on their employer.

I don't even have the benefit of a high school education and came from a very poor background (think a step above Appalachia) and yet after a decade of working I have never been beholden to a single employer. Perhaps the problem is we still teach kids like it's the 40's but you should be constantly building skills in your own time and keeping a toe in the job market. I got laid off on Friday during the finical crisis and walked into a new job that next Monday.

Re: A profound apology

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...and the "other half" (as if there are only two perspectives) scapegoat just as handily: corporations, racist people, sexist people, homophobic people, Russian hackers, Fox News, the bourgeois, disloyal white women, people who "vote against their interests", patriotic people, spiritual people, uneducated people, cherry-picked structural injustice, and pretty much anything that doesn't support their preconceived not…

For many progressives I know, those things are blamed indeed, but for society's problems, not their own. There's a real difference there, deriving from the difference in political philosophy. Broadly speaking, the left believes that if you address structural social issues, individuals will eventually have paths to succeed. The right believes that if everyone focuses on the problems they themselves experience, society…

> ...those things are blamed indeed, but for society's problems, not their own.

That's a good point in some cases. But in many cases that doesn't hold. Meryl Streep outgrouped popular, middle American, and "lowbrow" culture(s) when ranting about how they impact on her job. Gay marriage and abortion views are certainly personal complaints as well as social ones. Distaste for spiritual people typically stems from a personal grudge more than a dry academic philosophy about the social impact of disagreements about metaphysical reality or something. How about bikes versus cars disputes in urban areas? Or disagreements about Bay Area rent?

I can come up with more examples. I think there's a "I'm just being the rational one here" type of cognitive dissonance from basically all perspectives. Even that attitude holds the seeds for outgrouping (those irrational people!).

Re: A profound apology

#356
post #326

> By now I’m sure you’ve seen the video where I treated an Uber driver disrespectfully. To say that I am ashamed is an extreme understatement. My job as your leader is to lead…and that starts with behaving in a way that makes us all proud. That is not what I did, and it cannot be explained away. > It’s clear this video is a reflection of me—and the criticism we’ve received is a stark reminder that I must fundamentall…

I haven't watched the video yet, but I suspect that the whole incident was made up out of whole cloth, right down to coaching the driver on the right tenor to set his arguments in.

The reason being to make a statement about the sexual harassment issue, without actually talking about the sexual harassment issue.

Re: A profound apology

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> He's not though. He's turning worse, owning the media makes it easier to pretend being mr Nice Guy. Bill has his head so far stuck up the elite ass by now that he's helping killing off less fortunate parts of the global population for profit to invest in oil and weapons. http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/02/23/bill-gates-admitted-eu... Stop trolling. The only reasons you would post that link is if you either didn't r…

I've followed Bill around, bad trees don't give good fruit; just because the information comes from a non-bought source and contradicts what you imagined to be true; that doesn't make it fake or turn the comment into trolling.

I didn't call out the source because it contradicted me, I called it out for poorly backed sources, wild exaggerations, and unfounded assumptions.

The article starts with "It isn’t clear if Bill Gates was veiling a threat[1] to help depopulate[2] the planet by 30 million people, if he was simply scare-mongering...". The links go to articles about how Bill Gates dad was the head of eugenics group planned parenthood. That one needs to be backed up, or perhaps they just don't know what eugenics means? Nope, apparently the second link going into the history and details, they know exactly what eugenics is, they just have a hard time between disassociating the (somewhat fictionalized!) history of the group from the current actions. An organization's founding and past actions don't necessarily factor in to their current goals and actions. Tying Margaret Sanger to Nazi policies (which she was against) without backing it up when there's evidence to the contrary[3] is yet one more reason to discount this source.

"[Bill Gates] who has been kicked out of India[4]". The linked article is about how India is funding a key component of an immunization program that used to by funded by the Gates foundation, because there was growing public sentiment that the local government should be handling certain needs itself to protect from outside influence. It goes on to say "[Senior health ministry official] Swaminathan, however, stressed there were no instances of influence found and the decision was only in part prompted by a wider perception about foreign funding of the program."

And that's just the first paragraph.

The trolling accusation is actually the least damning possibility I could come up with as to why you posted that, because the alternative is that you believed everything in the article at face value, and seriously, what the fuck? Do you really think that an interlocking web so self-referencing propaganda blogs, which either never link to a reputable source or when they do wildly misinterpret (or misrepresent) that source are a substitute for critical thinking and actual news? You've linked to the blogosphere version of the Weekly World News, and have done the equivalent of trying explain to everyone the wonders of Bat Boy[5]. Hopefully you were as self aware about it as the Weekly World News was.

1: http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/02/25/10-disturbing-facts-a...

2: http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/bill-gates-and-eugenics-the-w...

3: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/sanger-hitler_eq...

4: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-health-bmgf-idUSKBN1...

5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_(character)

Re: A profound apology

#358
post #124

Here's the conversation that took place: Travis: So we are reducing the number of black cars in the next few months. Fawzi: It’s good. Travis: You probably saw some email. Fawzi: I saw the email [that says] it starts in May. But you’re raising the standards and dropping the prices. Travis: We’re not dropping the prices on Black. Fawzi: But in general. Travis: In general, but we have competitors. Otherwise we’d be out…

Why should he have to apologise for this? This is normal 'robust' conversation between an employer and an employee who have a disagreement. The driver is apparently bankrupt (well done), so I would not be at all surprised if he deliberately tried to bait Travis into this conversation so he'd have a story to sell. At the end of the Bloomberg article where this surfaced, they noted that the driver got 1 Star for that r…

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Re: A profound apology

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post #25

The problem with SV's propensity for turning twenty-somethings into CXOs is that they are fundamentally NOT mature. Studies have shown that our brains aren't fully mature until we're 25 but it seems to take a long time for the feeling of entitlement you garner before that age to wear off after you've reached the quarter-century mark. I actually do hope he's sincere - I hope he's really going to get help - and I speci…

Travis is 40.

Maturity comes with experience, not time.

Perhaps the experience of having one of his contractor-chumps call him out on his worker-hostile corporate policy changes while working will mature him a bit more.

The rest of us have to make do with mundane stuff like the births of our children, not making rent/mortgage on the first of the month, having our water/power/gas shut off, getting laid off, drinking too much tequila, catching a flat tire at 1 AM during a downpour, losing the championship match, putting our favorite dog or cat down, burying our parents, getting married, experiencing a perfect day miles from any stranger out in the wilderness, finishing the marathon run, getting stopped by the cops for a BS pretext reason, or writing a horrendously long run-on sentence.

Re: A profound apology

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So being a successful human being is gauged solely on the size of one's bank account?

No, but saving thousands (millions?) of lives through philanthropy goes a long way towards making up for being kind-of-a-dick-sometimes.

So its OK to act crappy now as long as you do something philanthropic later with the money you made while treating people badly? What is that called humanity arbitrage?

I don't think that basic human decency is something you should keep in a ledger to run credit and debits against.

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