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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by wyclif »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #302
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

I've had the new MacBook Pro 15" with Touch Bar for several days now. I'm returning it. The Lenovo is what I really wanted, but it doesn't run MacOS. This Touch Bar is the worlds worst idea. I literally now have to look at the keyboard to type again, like I'm 10 years old. I haven't looked at a keyboard in decades. The machine is going back this week. What a disaster. And, don't tell me to learn to use Caps Lock for…

You could always get one of the new MBPs without the Touch Bar. I think I agree with you, though. I also touch-type, use vim, and the Touch Bar breaks my flow.

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Post by rayiner »

scholia wrote: post #301
farresito wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually thought about doing so, but I'm always moving back and forth, so right now I think my best choice is to stick with a laptop. I agree that they all suck, but some (most?) of them suck so much they are out of question. I don't know what happened, really. 10 years ago you bought a laptop, no matter which brand, and you would get a decent keyboard. They have sacrificed quality for aesthetics too much, but m…

> I don't know what happened, really. 10 years ago you bought a laptop, no matter which brand, and you would get a decent keyboard. THIN became a much more important marketing tool than GOOD, or even FUNCTIONAL.

There is nothing more "good" or "functional" about deep travel keyboards. They're just a matter of taste. You can type just as fast on something like a MacBook keyboard once you get used to it.

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Post by bulatb »

mactunes wrote: post #64
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

I just recently bought a ASUS ZenBook UX360UAK with a 7th gen i7, 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD. It's made out of aluminium, has a glass touchpad and costs around half of what a similarly priced MacBook pro costs in Germany. It's my first non-Mac after 20 years. I've owned it for a good week and so far I'm very happy. It has superb battery life, great build quality and is fast. Only 1 minor con: the fan always runs, but i…

> the fan always runs

Are there laptops where it doesn't? I've had 4 different models from 4 different makers, including a MacBook Pro, and every one has run the fan 100℅ of the time.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by AlexC04 »

josteink wrote: post #140
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

> They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time. It feels light years ahead of the super-heavy aluminium-nonsense Apple is trying to peddle. Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press.

> The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time.

If I'm honest I have no Idea why there is an ad for the X1 on hackernews today. The page itself is 404-ing for me.

That said, I held an X1 carbon last september when shopping for a new laptop with my girlfriend. It was a fucking glorious machine.

In the end we wound up buying the lenevo yoga because it comes with an i7, SSD, & 8gigs ram (the three checkboxes I need on a laptop) - this was the cheapest with all my boxes ticked.

X1C was a lot more expensive, but you could feel why when you held it. What a beautiful machine.

(Again, why is it listed as a link on HN? Just so we can moon over it? Fair I guess)

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by colemickens »

hbcondo714 wrote: post #4

> WQHD IPS (2560 x 1440) 300 nits Is this their OLED screen?

Smaller resolution that my 18 month old Chromebook Pixel in a larger size, and with fewer nits. It's a disappointment is what it is. I'm in love with the laptop otherwise, but I've had two X1s already and the screens were some of the worst I've ever used.

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Post by pbz »

faragon wrote: post #57

It is almost perfect. I would love real 4 core i7 with 8MB L3 cache CPU for laptops, instead of the 2 core (4 threads) with 4MB. Edit: 6th generation of mobile Intel CPUs have models with 4 cores and 8MB of L3 cache (i7-6970HQ), using 45W [1]. However, in 7th generation there are only 2-core models [2]. [1] http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88392/6th-Generation-In... [2] http://ark.intel.com/products/family/95544/…

The 4 core ones (HQ series) have not been released yet. They're supposed to be out Jan/Feb.

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Post by ajross »

op00to wrote: post #336
ajross wrote: post #279

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I get a measured 13 hours of work time on my new T460. You're citing intuition which is awfully stale.

13 hours with the extra goiter-battery? Doing what?

Let me rephrase, if for no other reason than to give you the ability to retreat to some other anatomical metaphor:

This box, with a i7-6600U, routinely idles with the screen on at 5.5-6W with a current kernel (spending almost all of that in PC7 per powertop). Your ideas about Linux power management are just plain misinformed.

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Post by CountSessine »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #224
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

Errr.... T530 had titanium cover and endoskeleton chassis. My friend routinely walks over his while it's powered on, as a demonstration. How is it possibly an example of a "plastic, flimsy, bendy" laptop? Yes it has screw holes and grills... it's a working-person's laptop :). The new ones don't, because they're becoming more like apple - which means I cannot as easily replace battery, hard drive, memory, etc as I do…

T530 had titanium cover and endoskeleton chassis.

Titanium?

walk over to my work T530, leaned up against the wall...

What 'cover' on this is made out of titanium? It's all black plastic. I've heard it has a magnesium skeleton...? Maybe you mean the hinges? I guess those could be titanium - they're some kind of metal.

Dude - the whole case on this thing is made out of plastic. I'm scratching the whole thing to find anything on this that's metal at all. What are you talking about?

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

gravypod wrote: post #263
masklinn wrote: post #218

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> Is this really a serious reason to buy a laptop, or not, the design? Yes. > You buy a computer because of its performance, not its appearance For a desktop/workstation maybe , and even that is debatable (I would not buy a desktop computer with plexiglas panels and LEDs all over). For a laptop though, the design is part of the function and has an impact on it. Design is part and parcel of a laptop's usability and us…

> Design is part and parcel of a laptop's usability and usage, and impacts its effective lifespan (you can get mileage out of a laptop while it's falling to pieces but that's not an enjoyable experience). I don't think that's a fair characterization of the thinkpad experiance. I own one, and every other owner I know, hasn't had these things crap out. Also, if they do crap out there are guides telling you exactly what…

> A computer is a tool. Would you buy a shovel if it was very bad at shoveling and had a pre-determined lifespan just because it was colored to match your khakis?

In that sense, a car is just a tool to get you from A to B. So buying a Porsche would be completely pointless.

Clothes are just tools for keeping you warm. It's pointless to take pride in how you present yourself.

So many of my engineering friends think this way. Too many. In fact, most of Sweden thinks this way about cars, and most of Germany thinks this way about clothes.

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