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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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“The difference with this device is that we started from the beginning,” says Dave Burke, who runs Android engineering. Started from scratch, yet the end result looks like a iPhone knockoff from a random Chinese shanzhai company? http://i.imgur.com/LlqaAPO.png

Reminds me of the original iPhone - it was an LG Prada ripoff. I'm sure you call all phones with a white front iPhone knockoffs.

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>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

I've had the worst time since switching to the OnePlus 3 and from what I've read the OS on this phone is very close to stock Android. The only way to have a good experience with email, calendars and contacts is to use Google Apps – which I refuse to migrate to. The stock apps have no support for IMAP IDLE, CardDAV, or CalDAV. You have to resort to 3rd party apps for these and they are without fail either slow, buggy,…

it is quite close to stock android and i think it is quite unfortunate that it is not actually stock android. your critique, while somewhat valid, is not of the oneplus3 but of google's applications.

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Every alarm, timer, and reminder I set (on my phone), are set by voice. I chose it because "Set an alarm for 8am" really is the best interface to interact with that subsystem.

I think parent is talking more about: "Please buy tickets to concert" "Front row tickets to concert purchased for $500" "Wait no, buy the cheapest tickets!" "Cancelling order! Purchased last row tickets for $10" "Only $10? Well maybe I can spend a little more an not be in the last row" etc

Agreed, i don't want it to do any of that. With that said, there are plenty of things i'd love to be able to use it for. Texting _(via Telegram.. app support, not just SMS!)_, remind/alarm, and information are my main ones.

Currently, i only use it for alarms. I'd love if Assistants became good enough to conversationally text someone.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Last week we tried to launch an Android-first app at a major startup conference with 5000 visitors.

95% of the visitors (startups, entrepreneurs, investors, executives) had iPhones. We later confirmed this by looking at the network stats and couldn't believe it. In a country where Android statistically has 80% marketshare. The Android users loved the product, but we failed because we couldn't generate word-of-mouth.

For the target audience of the Pixel, this is an uphill battle.

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I'd like someone to save me from Apple's garbage cloud services, but I just can't get away from their hardware. It's just too good. So... Can anyone convince me that this thing is going to be different from the iPhone killers that are reported on every year in these regurgitated press releases?

What I loved about the nexus phones is that they were cheap enough that I'd stop caring about the hardware. They were cattle instead of a pet. They really should have gone further down this route. Rather than compete with apple on hardware, play up the awesome web services and the fact that dropping your phone in the toilet is no longer a big deal.

Drop a Nexus 5x in the toilet, you're out ~$300. Drop an iPhone 7 in the toilet, you're out $0 since it's waterproof.

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No threat to either iPhone or Note 7 and incredibly overpriced. Pixel is basically a mid-range phone for high-end price. OnePlus 3 for $400 in mid-range or Meizu M3 Note for $140 in lower end are much better deals.

Note 7: Huge screen. 5" is a practical limit for me.

iPhone: I want direct filesystem access and 3rd-party app stores, app sideloading, etc. Also, to not have to re-purchase the apps I already have.

The smaller Pixel is more interesting to me than either the Note 7 or iPhone 7. Of course, I've got a weird combination of requirements for phones, and they go against the direction that most of the market is headed, so I'd have to agree that these aren't likely to make a huge dent in the market. They're phones I'll be considering for my next upgrade, though.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

> Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple [...] on the UX front.

Well, iTunes sucks, and it is pivotal in the Apple ecosystem.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Wish apple was as enthusiastic about processor specs for the mac lineup as they are for the iphone lineup.

They have a lot more control over the mobile processors. The laptop processors have to maintain compatibility with all the software that people run on their laptops; effectively, that means they're stuck with other people's processors.

That's not really true. x86 emulation is a solved problem at this point, and Apple has shown willingness to use emulation to bridge an ISA transition in the past.

I think the real reason is some combination of (a) ARM isn't competitive (or only recently became competitive) at the high power/high performance point that Intel CPUs excel at; (b) the Mac line generates so much less revenue and operates at so much smaller of a scale than iOS devices that it isn't worth developing CPUs in-house for them, not to mention the fixed costs associated with undergoing a transition.

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I think this is very user-specific. My wife has had two iphones (5, 6). Both die much faster than my androids (many many hours). We use them about the same.

Anecdotes aside, let's find some data: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1402071/best-ph... http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3 https://www.statista.com/statistics/280508/smartphone-batter... Looks like Apple is middle of the pack among premium phones these days. My experience was with NEXUS 4 and 5, which would often be out of juice when I needed them.

Nexus 5x vastly improved battery life over the 5.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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They have a lot more control over the mobile processors. The laptop processors have to maintain compatibility with all the software that people run on their laptops; effectively, that means they're stuck with other people's processors.

That's not really true. x86 emulation is a solved problem at this point, and Apple has shown willingness to use emulation to bridge an ISA transition in the past. I think the real reason is some combination of (a) ARM isn't competitive (or only recently became competitive) at the high power/high performance point that Intel CPUs excel at; (b) the Mac line generates so much less revenue and operates at so much smaller…

You think it's straightforward for Apple to emulate x86 on their own chips with enough performance to rival Intel's own chips? That's a bold claim!
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