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Re: Microsoft is Dead
#342From Eastern Europe ::: for us, the real life hackers with only 1% of your GDP, it is obvious to _USE_ a software or any IP product, service rather than paying for it. We have money only for cheap hardware (forget macbook), broadband, and maybe some for hosting. These trends represent the future: 4/5 of world population the chinese, indian, arabs, or latinos won't have more money to spend going online.
From this entire business scene only Google is able to get money from us. We are willing to pay only for Google Ads because they are cheap, straight, and delivers ROI next minute.
We go connected for nothing, we create for nothing and we get revenue by partnering Google.
Any other company who does not follow this business model is, or will be dead. Nobody ever will pay for any tools to create an online business but we will share our revenue with who generates us profit.
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#343Two comments:
1) I think you underestimate the importance of Firefox in Microsoft's decline in importance. It is Firefox that makes sure that all those Web-based apps aren't held hostage to Microsoft's implementation of web standards.
2) Whilst its all about the web it isn't all about the browser. Ajax-y web apps show the potential for ignoring platform specific APIs (such as Win32)--especially when you don't try to mimic platform specific behaviour (the big problem with Swing-based apps: stop pretending to be a native desktop app! Rejoice in being a x-platform web app!). But ajax inside Firefox/Safari isn't going to be enough for me to abandon all of my 'rich' Mac OS X apps: if you want me to put all of my brain in your web-based wiki or PIM, give the same 'richness' and sophistication of design that I can get with VoodooPad, DevonThink, and Curio.
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#344Anyone who cares can have fast Internet access now.
Um, no.
I care to have fast access (I am a network administrator at a hospital so it'd be useful). But I cannot have it. Therefore your comment does not reflect reality.
I'm sure that's true in the city where you live, but come to Dalton, NH and tell me again how I'm supposed to get high speed access. DSL? Nope. Cable? Ha! Satellite? Not on my wooded hillside. Magic internet fairies? Oh, that must be what you're talking about!
Re: Microsoft is Dead
#345Paul Graham is dead.
Dead in the sense that I won't read his ever increasing bsht anymore.
--larsw
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#346Dead or not, the company is buying up a lot of property.
http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=AE40DC75921BEB714FCC9D697D42A6F2
Re: Microsoft is Dead
#347It's pretty obvious to the MILLIONS of developers and hackers that not only survive but thrive in the Windows world that you really have ignored them for your entire career. You live in one ecosystem we live in another, The main difference between us and you is that you feel it necessary to throw stones at us (or in this case verbal diarrhea) every so often and we are happy to let you live in your world, and respect…
Did you just say "MILLIONS of [...] hackers [...] in the Windows world"? Wow, that's pretty funny, because Windows isn't really designed for hackers, you know? I mean, sure, they can go out and buy Visual Studio and write some programs, but why not just get an OS that supports real hacking out of the box, and is free? I mean, either the definition of "hacker" has expanded quite liberally, or we should start seeing a…
"designed for hackers"??? Haha, what a load of... You could look at the many definitions of 'hacker', and none of them precludes hackers on Windows. But, if you believe that 'real hacking' is wasting hundreds of hours trying to make your graphics card work, then yes, by no means use the free one, and consider yourself 'a real hacker', when you manage to get the sound out of your soundcard.
Re: Microsoft is Dead
#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you just say "MILLIONS of [...] hackers [...] in the Windows world"? Wow, that's pretty funny, because Windows isn't really designed for hackers, you know? I mean, sure, they can go out and buy Visual Studio and write some programs, but why not just get an OS that supports real hacking out of the box, and is free? I mean, either the definition of "hacker" has expanded quite liberally, or we should start seeing a…
"designed for hackers"??? Haha, what a load of... You could look at the many definitions of 'hacker', and none of them precludes hackers on Windows. But, if you believe that 'real hacking' is wasting hundreds of hours trying to make your graphics card work, then yes, by no means use the free one, and consider yourself 'a real hacker', when you manage to get the sound out of your soundcard.
I didn't mean hacking the OS, which I agree can be a time-sink if you don't know where to look for the answers online (Gentoo-wiki is a great source of answers). I meant that GNU/Linux has simple but powerful IDEs like vim built-in, and most distributions come with gcc as well for compiling the basic languages. There are higher-level programming languages included in the installation like Perl, Python, Java, and more. If you want to install new ones, it's simple, just type "emerge ruby sbcl ocaml ...".
I didn't intend my comment to mean that Windows doesn't have legitimate hackers, I was just saying that it doesn't support them nearly as well as others do, with its closed API and licensed software-building tools. I was also poking fun at the "MILLIONS of hackers" comment, because in my opinion, there aren't millions of hackers in the entire world. I don't believe that hacker simply means "programmer", but rather, something a bit more. I certainly wouldn't consider myself to be one yet, even though I am quite confident in my programming skills.
So I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that there aren't Windows hackers, just that I seriously doubt that there are millions of them.
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#349I think since I'm also part of your "younger generation" I can see the validity in your argument that no one uses Windows anymore, but as I'm beginning to look for jobs and as i meet more and more people outside of my tech bubble, I can see that the general public still attaches itself to Windows OS. The more tech inclined are all about Linux and the like, but those that are all about enjoying youtube and checking email could care less.
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#350I went to one of Microsoft's rollout conferences recently -- to get a free copy of Office. The new Word really is better than the old Word, and--call me grandma--I still like it--I'm used to it. I sat at a big table eating lunch with my fellow small business types who came for the same thing, and listened to the MS power users talk about looking around and seeing, and realizing how old they, and the rest of the loyalists were. True. The loyal MS IT guys were there in force, to applaud Bill warmly. But it wasn't a big under-thirty audience. The presenters all talked about the many new enterprise features of Vista and the servers, the tightest possible integration of everything a huge organization needs to control every detail of work. And how much they hate pocket flash drives -- those enemies of corporate security. And all of us Office freeloaders smiled and nodded, and ate their sandwiches.