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Re: Plastc Card

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Post by mattmaroon »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #299
mattmaroon wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a lot of cards. Between gift cards, loyalty cards, and credit cards, I have at least 20-30 that I'd like to carry on me. I end up leaving cards I don't use every day in my car (and am always paranoid about the valet as a result). I use a KeyRing app for loyalty cards, but it's a pain and requires me often typing numbers into things. I often find myself in a Starbucks, realizing I left the Starbucks gift card i…

But would you be able to find/remember all those cards if they were stored in this thing? Isn't it the pretty plastic and embossed pictures that scream "Barnes & Noble"? Would burying that inside a Plastc mean you never used them?

I have the opposite problem. I have more than I can carry on me, so they all end up in a heap in my dresser drawer. Then they never get used.

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by mattmaroon »

JTon wrote: post #149
mattmaroon wrote: post #88

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I have a lot of cards. Between gift cards, loyalty cards, and credit cards, I have at least 20-30 that I'd like to carry on me. I end up leaving cards I don't use every day in my car (and am always paranoid about the valet as a result). I use a KeyRing app for loyalty cards, but it's a pain and requires me often typing numbers into things. I often find myself in a Starbucks, realizing I left the Starbucks gift card i…

For loyalty cards, why not use passbook or equivalent?

There are apps, like KeyRing, which I use. The problem is unless the merchant has an optical scanner (many are still on laser) they can't scan your phone. So now you or the cashier has to type in a 12 digit number. If it's the cashier, you have to hand them your phone. It's annoying.

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by bravo22 »

cgjaro wrote: post #335
bravo22 wrote: post #179

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You have a segmented e-ink display in there. They have a full pixel display. They are different. E-Ink displays are 1.18mm thick per their spec sheet and you have to add some mechanically stiff backing to that. Looking at a detailed photo [1] it looks like a STN segmented LCD but I could be wrong. Incidentally, do you have a pair of callipers handy? Could you measure the PayPal Security Key? I don't think it is the s…

I do have a PayPal Security Key. My calliper measures 0.81mm, compared to 0.78mm for credit cards. So it is indeed pretty much the same thickness.

Thanks.

I looked at more teardown pics. It is definitely a segmented display which is far easier to drive than an active matrix (i.e. "pixels"). They also don't have wireless and a host of other things that this device proclaims to have.

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by poonjahb »

sbenario wrote: post #10
skorecky wrote: post #2

Wow, this will certainly give Coin ( https://onlycoin.com/ ) a run for their money.

I think the real question is who is more likely to ship an actual product.

My question is whether these are the same people that came up with coin and this is simply another ploy to get people's money for a product that will never make it to market. Both domains are private registrations from GoDaddy. If either was a genuine corporate entity you would think they would have real information in their domain registration.

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by jeeva »

syncsynchalt wrote: post #319
staz wrote: post #213

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I don't get how you can end up with so many cards, it's seems like a very american problem. I have 5 cards in my wallet: * Debit card and a Visa credit card: both with chip&pin and allowing me to do secure transaction on the internet * A public transport card: RFC, also allow me to rent bikes * An ID card, also with a chip&pin, allow me to sign documents and fill my taxes * An insurance card which is not even a magne…

Yes, it's an American thing. In the US every retail entity that you interact with will offer you discounts to scan a plastic card in addition to your credit card (it allows them to trend you as a consistent customer for their data modeling, send you targeted advertising, and so on). If you want to take advantage of these discounts, you build a significant stack of plastic.

As a question, what kind of percentage discount are you getting for this data exchange?

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by the_ancient »

xcrunner529 wrote: post #286
the_ancient wrote: post #284

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"Apple Pay" is not some new thing, it is EMV standard that is implemented by many "soft wallets" and this card will probably use this same standard to implement it

WRONG. It is part of the new EMVco standard, but has NOT been implemented anywhere but Apple Pay at this time. There was years of prep with the banks and Apple to get this initial implementation.

No that is WRONG, in the US very few companies have implemented it but Apple is far from the first, however EMV has been used overseas for a long time

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by vertex-four »

the_ancient wrote: post #346
xcrunner529 wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WRONG. It is part of the new EMVco standard, but has NOT been implemented anywhere but Apple Pay at this time. There was years of prep with the banks and Apple to get this initial implementation.

No that is WRONG, in the US very few companies have implemented it but Apple is far from the first, however EMV has been used overseas for a long time

EMV tokenisation is a new standard that EMVco published this year[0], which allows the person holding the card details to generate an entirely new set of card details which are essentially aliased to the original card details. The result of all this is that Apple don't have to store the original card details.

However, the standard can allow for other things as well - it can allow for users to generate a new token per-merchant which could be used online or in person. Or merchants could generate a new token from a customer's card that'll only be usable with that merchant for storage, thus standardising what the likes of Stripe do while implementing a significant amount of backwards compatibility with the existing system.

[0] http://www.emvco.com/specifications.aspx?id=263

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by robin_reala »

reacocard wrote: post #314
robin_reala wrote: post #281

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Cash machines have to deal with raised numerals. You could at least make it as thick as card + raised digits all over.

Not quite - many ATMs I've seen size the slot so the raised numbers only go in one place so you can't insert the card the wrong way around.

Ah, I hadn’t noticed that, will have to have a closer look.

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by aestra »

mattmaroon wrote: post #338
aestra wrote: post #303

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Well I have no fewer than 4 checking accounts. I have a debit card for all them. I don't use any of the debit cards except at the ATM once in a while so I could probably go without three of them on my person. Then I have 4 credit cards.* That's 8 cards right there. Then I do my shopping at 3 different grocery stores, so they all get their cards. 3 because I take advantage of the sales at each and the selection. One d…

Everyone should have at least 3. If you aren't fully taking advantage of credit card rewards you are subsidizing people like me who do.

"Everyone" is a far stretch. More like "people who like to (or don't mind) managing their finances at a finer level and also don't spend above their means."

Which is maybe 35% of the American population.

Some people are just fine not bothering with credit cards because convenience/simplicity/ease is more important to them. It's all about individual preferences and priority.

Re: Plastc Card

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Post by xcrunner529 »

the_ancient wrote: post #346
xcrunner529 wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WRONG. It is part of the new EMVco standard, but has NOT been implemented anywhere but Apple Pay at this time. There was years of prep with the banks and Apple to get this initial implementation.

No that is WRONG, in the US very few companies have implemented it but Apple is far from the first, however EMV has been used overseas for a long time

Retract, please.
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