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Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by modfodder »

whatusername wrote: post #327
opendais wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When you say 5x, are you considering the acquisition cost for each product sold, or the annual budget? When I say 5x, I mean Google gets 5x the amount of money than Amazon does. I think that is more relevant than a "per item" basis. > Unless you only sell through Amazon, then a global comparison wouldn't be fair, because Google is semi-monopolist in ads while Amazon is far from it in retail. It isn't my fault Amazo…

Don't forget -- Google will show ads to me when I go looking for a rake. Amazon will tell me "Sorry, we don't ship rakes to your country"

Or Amazon will tell you that rake's not available because they are trying to renegotiate their contract with the rake supplier.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by r00fus »

evolve2k wrote: post #318

"For a limited time, Fire phone comes with 1,000 Amazon Coins (a $10 value) for apps, games, and in-app purchases. Plus, save up to 10% anytime you use Amazon Coins."

Is there any consumer who actually desires virtual credits/currency in lieu of hard cash?

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by psbp »

kudu wrote: post #255
nostromo wrote: post #120

The market positioning here seems very un-Amazon. "Your margin is my opportunity" is probably my favorite Bezosism. Given that perspective and Apple's very cushy margins, I expected Amazon not to approach the market with an expensive phone packed with new features, but to approach the market from the bottom, with a good phone that is free or nearly free. The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segme…

> The problem, of course, is that Google seems to have that segment wrapped up. No, there's still place for a great, cheap phone that's aimed at the consumer market rather than the geeks or the developers who usually buy Nexus devices.

He might be talking about the Moto G or E. The Nexus 5 is more mid-tier.

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Post by king_jester »

jds375 wrote: post #172
revscat wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's a #%&! finger covering up the screen now! At which point I use the abductor pollicis brevis, adductor pollicis, etc. to do something quite amazing: I move my thumb out of the way. Alternatively, I can use the same muscles to scroll the screen to a point such that I can see any obstructed content. The benefit of this method is that I maintain my original viewing angle. I also have finer motor skills in my th…

It's not about your finger being in the way necessarily, it's about usability. Supppose I'm eating lunch. It would be nice to read an article with my phone in one hand and hold my sandwhich in the other. Or if I'm lying in bed just reading. It would be great to not have to keep scrolling the phone with my other hand. I'd rather my phone just do it for me.

I've never heard of evidence that auto scrolling behavior is actually better UX as a general design decision for scrollable content. In fact, I've heard the opposite: when users can't control the scroll of content or scrolling is difficult to achieve, they give up more easily on their task.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by m0dest »

cnst wrote: post #300

It weighs 160g! Only has 1280x720 resolution. They want me to buy it at 649$? Are they insane? Google Nexus 5 is already huge, but it still weighs only 130g, and at least it has 1920x1080 resolution and only costs 349$. For 649$, I might as well buy iPhone 5s, which only weighs 112g. Yet it probably has the exact same battery life, due to the more efficient software! Keep in mind, both Nexus 5 and iPhone 5s are almos…

+1, weight has a huge impact on the user experience of a smartphone and doesn't get enough attention in specs.

There is a significant comfort difference between light phones in the 100-150g range (latest iPhone, Nexus, Galaxy) and heavy phones in the 150-200g range (e.g. most Nokia Lumia phones, phablets).

720p for 4.7" doesn't bother me, as that's still full fidelity at 11". http://isthisretina.com/

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by opendais »

gohrt wrote: post #307
opendais wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet if you went and talked to people if they were comfortable with all of their online banking being routed through Amazon...I suspect most would say No. Just a guess. If you put it in terms they understand, they care.

Amazon says HTTPS is not intercepted https://www.eff.org/2011/october/amazon-fire%E2%80%99s-new-b... Also, Amazon has most of its customers banking information already.

Credit card != Banking Information.

And if they pushed an update to change this [even accidentally], how would you know?

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by opendais »

whatusername wrote: post #327
opendais wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When you say 5x, are you considering the acquisition cost for each product sold, or the annual budget? When I say 5x, I mean Google gets 5x the amount of money than Amazon does. I think that is more relevant than a "per item" basis. > Unless you only sell through Amazon, then a global comparison wouldn't be fair, because Google is semi-monopolist in ads while Amazon is far from it in retail. It isn't my fault Amazo…

Don't forget -- Google will show ads to me when I go looking for a rake. Amazon will tell me "Sorry, we don't ship rakes to your country"

More importantly, Google knows when you are looking for services and can market to that as well.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by gaze »

Zelphyr wrote: post #69

Sounds like this phone does a good job of solving Amazon's problem of getting customers to buy more from them. I don't see how it makes my life any easier though. 3D? Ok, that is really cool. 2D hasn't really been a limiting factor for me though. One-handed navigation and autoscrolling? Wow, that just sounds terrible. I'm trying to read and my kid bumps my arm. Now where am I on the page? And how do I quickly get bac…

It feels almost exclusively like a device you carry around in your pocket to help you buy more shit from them. Regardless of the usefulness it just feels super slimy.

Re: Amazon Fire Phone

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Post by tonyblundell »

mootothemax wrote: post #269
gambiting wrote: post #30

So hang on....are you telling me that $199 is the cheapest price WITH A CONTRACT?? Obviously things are different in the US,but in UK it's almost unfathomable to be paying anything for the phone if you are getting a contract. Sometimes the latest iphone will have an upfront cost of 29 pounds, but it's rare.

in UK it's almost unfathomable to be paying anything for the phone if you are getting a contract Here's EE's page for a 16GB iPhone 5s. Prices range from 9.99 to 149.99 depending on the plan chosen: http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/iphone-5s-16g... Look at the next model up, 32GB, and the up-front cost increases significantly: http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/iphone-5s-32g...

It's always much more expensive direct from the network.

Here you can buy the 16GB iPhone 5S for £0 up front, on a £33pm contract.

http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/plans?upfrontPriceRange=Free&tar...

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