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Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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Weird thing for Page to say:

> So I’m tremendously excited about the innovative new way we’re funding this project

Are they doing something other than just dumping money into it, siphoned from their core business? Or am I reading this wrong?

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Err... catalyzing a paradigm change makes perfect sense to me. I think Thomas Kuhn might have used that in his book, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions". A lit class isn't going to make any comment on a phrase like that, or management speak in general. Management speak is just a jargon.

> Err... catalyzing a paradigm change makes perfect sense to me. I think Thomas Kuhn might have used that in his book, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions". And I think he wouldn't have touched that phrase with a barge pole. > Management speak is just a jargon. No. Jargon comes out of necessity and field-specific needs. Management speak comes out of the desire to unecessarily dress-up bullshit.

Management is itself a field, with its own jargon. You can have good management and poor management (just as you can have good engineering or poor management) but don't pretend that the use or absence of "management jargon" is somehow intrinsically connected to that.

Managers have their jargon because they often trade in abstract concepts (Plan of Record, Resources, Asks, Action Items, OKRs) peculiar to their trade that are ripe for shorthanding, which is pretty similar to the reason you see it in other fields.

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I have always been interested on life-extension with a focus on healthy life. My background is mainly engineering (computer science, mechanical engineering) with focus on machine learning and statistics. I was thinking on taking some graduate program that would help the transition in this kind of companies; does anybody knows a university/program that would help? I have checked some graduate bioinformatics, but I am…

In the current environment, if you already have an engineering undergrad, an MBA would do you best. I am not a fan of the programs, but the degree will open doors that are mostly shut for pure engineers. In many areas and locals, not necessarily Silicon Valley, a pure engineering man is seen as a lackey. An engineer with business cred is considered valuable, just my experience.

Thanks for your answer! I guess I would have to be more precise :)

My intent is to have a technical role in the space, not a management one. I can imagine how most of the problems facing require machine learning and statistics, so I am more interested on how to complement these skills to be able to transition into an space that fascinates me.

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> To catalyze something means to speed it up. (...) I don't see the problem with this. Could you be more specific? The problem with this is that "make it happen faster" is already clear and sufficient. People understand it -- including people who don't have an idea what "catalyst" means (for me it's a totally transparent word, as its origin and etymology come from my language. YMMV). If you want to dress it up to mak…

>The problem with this is that "make it happen faster" is already clear and sufficient. Do you only read Simple English wikipedia? It's very clear and sufficient.

Simple English Wikipedia sacrifices nuance to fit to its constrained lexicon. It is possible to explain pretty much anything using only 1000 words (and probably fewer), but it's going to be awkward because language is more than just conveying ideas through words. Words also have sounds and rhythm and evoke different images and emotions beyond their literal dictionary definition. For that reason, Simple English Wikipedia fails at being literature, but succeeds in communicating ideas to people that don't speak English. Since the latter is its goal, it's successful. But it's not something to imitate if you desire to communicate rather than just describe.

And, some phrases are simply used too often by people trying to sound smart when they really have nothing to say. There is nothing wrong with catalyzing synergy, but because so many people have applied those words when they had nothing to say, the phrase has gradually become meaningless. Omit meaningless words.

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The nutjobs who have to sully each and every Google related piece of news on HN are becoming tiresome.

Sock puppets and people with blinders on are becoming tiresome. Hey, remember this? > Should be titled the Banality of Google Strawmen for the often repeated conspiracy theories of Google working with the NSA. > There's simply no way Googlers would tolerate something like secretly sending user data to the NSA, it would be too hard to prevent internal employees from revolting. > As an employee, I'd rather Google lose…

Try again. There is still zero evidence Google did anything other than comply with requests for individually reviewed pieces of data, and did not engineer anything to permit firehose dragnets.

If the NSA is getting any kind of dragnet data, most likely it is via external network taps, intercepting non-encrypted SMTP traffic, or non-encrypted intra-datacenter fiber traffic the same way they tapped 'dark fiber' undersea cables of the Soviet Union during Venona.

Google cares very much for user privacy, it is part of the corporate culture.

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Guilty-by-association and paranoia. Check. (23andme is not owned by Google and I'm pretty sure their T&S/privacy policy and HIPAA cover what can be done with your personal records) Obligatory and irrelevant Google Reader reference. Check. Right, the world would be better off if Google spent more time investing in yet more social sharing web app features, and not on reducing high way fatalities or increasing health. M…

Googler drunk on company koolaid. Check.

Ad-hominem. Check.

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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To what extent is this guided by the self-interest of aging tech darling CEOs (Larry Page must be in his 40s by now)? As a young person I tend to think "some of these health issues ought to be solved problems by the time I'm older." But I don't have the kind of capital to spend on it that companies like Google, or persons like Larry Page, do. Regardless of motivation, I'm happy to see investment in this domain.

Sounds good to me if it is. After all, it'll be in everyone's self-interest soon enough.

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There have been several times in human history where the majority have decided it would be best if the 'elite' should have their lifespans shortened. Arguably with positive results.

I can't think of any times when people have had their lifespans shortened for fear they would become the elite , and the shorteners were on the right side of history. That sounds more like The Crucible .

The point is they are not potential elite, they are already elite. The fact that they can get hold of the treatment when the majority can not shows they're already placed at the top of society.

Personally I agree with the logic that if we have the choice between 0 and 100,000 people living for ever we pick 100,000 (Even if that 100,000 include such greats as Un and Assad). Having said that If I had the choice between 100,000 living forever and 3 billion people living forever with less private jets in the world I'd pick the later. Perhaps I'm cynical but if we do indeed get this tech I'm a lot less confident about my values being satisfied in the second instance than the first.

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