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The worst part for me (and I really am feeling bad about this) is that I should be concerned about the victims right now, but I can't stop thinking about what freedoms I'll be losing as a result of this.

If anything a successful terrorist attack should be a condemnation of the freedom-sacrificing mechanisms that have been put in place like the PATRIOT Act. They just failed.

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This idea is completely inane. The Volunteers declared war against the England that was on their soil in 1916, that they would shift suddenly to a war against the U.S. is ridiculous. Also, purposefully killing civilians gathered en masse without warning is more along the lines of British Army terrorism (Bloody Sunday, Amritsar), not the Irish volunteers who give warnings and tend to attack military targets, back when…

I just want you to know that your remarks are in really bad taste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks In my lifetime (I'm 30, from Manchester), I lived through two bomb attacks a few miles away from my home, one in the centre of the City, and another in a nearby town in the main shopping street that killed two children. They didn't 'tend to attack military targets'; they were terrorists. Terrorism…

And what was Drogheda, when the English massacred an entire town? Or shooting up the crowd in Croke Park? Or Bloody Sunday? The English have carried out terrorism against the Irish for centuries. It's an English war of choice. The English stole my family's land, gave it to settlers, and now English troops still march up and down Belfast. If you choose to go to war with a country and try to subjugate their people, expect the consequences. Don't cry that some of the war of your choice blew back to your homeland.

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I would like a way to filter out everything that includes the word "pray" in it unless it is from a respected news source. 90% of what any person ever says in response to everything that happens in america is "pray for it". It's sort of muddy to look at. Actually it's just completely obnoxious. I like the site though.

You're absolutely right. "Pray for boston" is trending on Twitter and Instagram right now, so it really muddies up the feed. We'll get a way to put negative search terms in there.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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This idea is completely inane. The Volunteers declared war against the England that was on their soil in 1916, that they would shift suddenly to a war against the U.S. is ridiculous. Also, purposefully killing civilians gathered en masse without warning is more along the lines of British Army terrorism (Bloody Sunday, Amritsar), not the Irish volunteers who give warnings and tend to attack military targets, back when…

I just want you to know that your remarks are in really bad taste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks In my lifetime (I'm 30, from Manchester), I lived through two bomb attacks a few miles away from my home, one in the centre of the City, and another in a nearby town in the main shopping street that killed two children. They didn't 'tend to attack military targets'; they were terrorists. Terrorism…

I think the IRA harmed a lot of innocent people, harmed their own cause, and that bombing civilians, warning or not, should be condemned. However the poster did mention that warnings were given if bombs were placed near civilians and your own link for the Warrington bombs does confirm that.

I also think if you played the loudest instrument on earth while marching in circles outside David Cameron's church you'd be arrested.

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The aim of the WTC attack was to make a very symbolic action: the goal was to destroy three symbols of American power, its military, economic, and political might, though the last ended up physically unscathed. Obviously a huge number of deaths associated with it, but the symbolism was key. You knew exactly where the attackers stood--American power is evil--once you heard a description of the attacks. This, in contra…

>You knew exactly where the attackers stood--American power is evil Who gives a fuck where they stand they will all be hunted down and killed. For all you know this bombing was because they don't believe women should run in marathons.

Knowing what their motives were is likely to speed their capture. Most terrorists have trouble keeping their mouths shut.

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The fact that this is the top comment for this thread makes me sad.

To be quite honest, me too. I expected it to just be background radiation: I too feel badly, conflicted and confused. I didn't expect this. Sitting at the top like that it really does start to look like soap-boxing or attention whoring. Apologies all, I really didn't mean it that way.

I didn't read it as attention whoring. I'd be inclined to think that the relatively few (but nevertheless very visible) harsh responses you've received are at least in part expected, valid, and understandable reactions to the possibility that you might just be right. After all, we don't want to believe that a tragic event like this might be used to tighten the noose of security around our collective necks. But what if it does?

Given recent history, there's little reason to feel that it won't and plenty to worry that it will.

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I feel like everyone expects a reaction and increased security and such, but sometimes this type of reaction won't be fruitful. What could we learn from this -- check every trash can for a bomb at every big event? There are an unlimited number of places you could hide a bomb. If someone trying to blow people up saw the 'reaction' being checking every trash can, they would just learn not to hide their bomb in a trash…

> What could we learn from this -- check every trash can for a bomb at every big event? There are an unlimited number of places you could hide a bomb. France, in response to terrorist attacks in the 1995 mandated that all public locations have transparent bags held by posts [1] [2]. I don't think that's a unreasonable compromise, considering the alternatives. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_container#Media [2]…

how does that help? You could still stick a bomb in amongst the trash. Ok, it's no longer enclosed in a container that will make the blast worse but you could stick plenty of malice into a bomb the size of a football which would easily go into that bag.

Re: Explosions near Boston Marathon finish line

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Crazy people.. Another image [NSFW]: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6fwFvCUAA-PWb.jpg:large

FWIW, watch out for the Бостоне ("Boston" in Russian/Cyrillic) trending topic on Twitter. There's at least one extremely graphic photo of a gentleman who has lost the majority of his left leg. After seeing that, I'm opting to avoid further photos.
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