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An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by yareally »

buster wrote: post #325
shinratdr wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. For the record I'm in favour of using device's lockscreen for more, that does feel like wasted space that could be used for more at-a-glance information. When the iOS jailbreak rolls around for my current model I typically hop on board and install LockInfo so I can have twitter & weather at a glance. The thing is though I don't really miss it when I don't have it, it's just a nice extra when it's available so i…

I always felt like the lockscreen itself is a total waste. Most people don't use complex security mechanism on it but rather some slide stuff and why? It wasn't possible to disable the lockscreen for a while but at least now it's possible to disable. It never turns on by accident and i'm right in my homescreen, much better (imo)! :)

I've considered disabling mine, but I figured I may still turn it on by accident in my pocket. Risk is far reduced from say when I had a blackberry (and pocket dialed at times), but I figured it could still happen.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by mmahemoff »

reidmain wrote: post #330
mmahemoff wrote: post #328

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Bad examples :). Try Buffer and App.Net instead.

So what happens in Android with those apps? Your app opens your App.net client of choice?

A bit more generic than that; there's no global setting where user says "this is my preferred App.Net app". When user hits Share in any app (many apps provide such a feature), a menu appears with all available apps user might want to share to. Any app can opt in to be in the menu, based on MIME type of what's being shared.

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/02/share-with-in...

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by shinratdr »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #336
shinratdr wrote: post #315

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iTunes is actually 200mb+QuickTime if you're on Windows which is 80mb, and the Google Music web client is nowhere near as functional as iTunes. Next you'll try and tell me Google Docs is just as functional as Word. Nothing I said was inaccurate, except that apparently Google matches music now. I'm curious as to how they do that without ponying up to the labels, but whatever. I actually have a Google Music account tha…

Look, Google Music lets me listen to my music in the web interface without taking 6 hours to index my library, consuming tons of memory, locking out my MP3 player if I plug it into a different machine and doesn't require large client updates. It matches my music in higher quality than iTunes Match. I'm sorry you live in Canada, and I'll concede that 25K>20K. What the hell else do you want me to say? I'll still take a…

> Look, Google Music lets me listen to my music in the web interface without taking 6 hours to index my library

iTunes does this once, when you add the music, and the only reason Google Music doesn't do this is because you can only add music so slowly that it has plenty of time to process each track.

You think Google Music doesn't need to index? I don't even know what to say to that.

> consuming tons of memory, locking out my MP3 player if I plug it into a different machine and doesn't require large client updates.

Clearly you haven't used an iOS device or iTunes in years. None of this is true anymore, and hasn't been since the days of the iPod. Great job though.

> I'm sorry you live in Canada

I'm sorry Google failed geography class. Living in Canada is awesome.

> What the hell else do you want me to say?

Something accurate or based in the last 5 years? Apparently that's out of your purview though.

> I'll still take a wireless sync and app install system every single day of the week over iTunes.

Jesus, iTunes is nowhere close to that bad. You really are living in 2007 aren't you? The backup and restore system iTunes offers so thoroughly trounces anything Android has to offer, it's worth it for that alone.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by shinratdr »

yareally wrote: post #318
shinratdr wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. For the record I'm in favour of using device's lockscreen for more, that does feel like wasted space that could be used for more at-a-glance information. When the iOS jailbreak rolls around for my current model I typically hop on board and install LockInfo so I can have twitter & weather at a glance. The thing is though I don't really miss it when I don't have it, it's just a nice extra when it's available so i…

They also have an option to add your calendar notifications to the lockscreen as well for daily events. I don't have them added there, but it's a nice touch to see what is on your literary next with a quick glance. Cyanogen is really the only ROM I trust and the most professional. I don't agree with all their decisions (though that's kind of typical of any project), but they're more professional than most other proje…

> but how is the post-jailbreak modding community for iphone? I mean I could look it up, but I'm guessing you have some first hand observations

Pretty good, you would be surprised. I've always been of the opinion that even the iPhone jailbreak community is better organized than anyone who hasn't tried it in person realizes. Via tweaks like DreamBoard you can customize anything and everything. Even total overhauls like turning it into an Android style or WP8 style device. It's pretty remarkable.

It's worth getting ahold of a 4S and jailbreaking to check it out firsthand if possible. The impression I get from Android users is that they feel iOS is completely impossible to customize in any real way. IMO installing total overhauls is actually easier assuming you're past the jailbreak process, which also tends to be simpler than rooting (although obviously that depends on the specific Android device you're trying to root).

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by yareally »

shinratdr wrote: post #344
yareally wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also have an option to add your calendar notifications to the lockscreen as well for daily events. I don't have them added there, but it's a nice touch to see what is on your literary next with a quick glance. Cyanogen is really the only ROM I trust and the most professional. I don't agree with all their decisions (though that's kind of typical of any project), but they're more professional than most other proje…

> but how is the post-jailbreak modding community for iphone? I mean I could look it up, but I'm guessing you have some first hand observations Pretty good, you would be surprised. I've always been of the opinion that even the iPhone jailbreak community is better organized than anyone who hasn't tried it in person realizes. Via tweaks like DreamBoard you can customize anything and everything. Even total overhauls lik…

Yeah, I'd love to try it out if I happen to find one cheap or one falls into my hands one day. Just as a device to hack around on and play with would be nice. I knew you could theme on iphone, but I didn't realize there was more in the modding community for it than that.

You're correct about the average Android user assuming that there's nothing you can really mod with an iOS device. The fact they assume that is sort of odd to a point, given how many in the Android community readily accept and mod phones without a complete source tree by Samsung, HTC and others in a similar fashion by reversing the dalvik byte code into Smali.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by shinratdr »

yareally wrote: post #345
shinratdr wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but how is the post-jailbreak modding community for iphone? I mean I could look it up, but I'm guessing you have some first hand observations Pretty good, you would be surprised. I've always been of the opinion that even the iPhone jailbreak community is better organized than anyone who hasn't tried it in person realizes. Via tweaks like DreamBoard you can customize anything and everything. Even total overhauls lik…

Yeah, I'd love to try it out if I happen to find one cheap or one falls into my hands one day. Just as a device to hack around on and play with would be nice. I knew you could theme on iphone, but I didn't realize there was more in the modding community for it than that. You're correct about the average Android user assuming that there's nothing you can really mod with an iOS device. The fact they assume that is sort…

> I knew you could theme on iphone, but I didn't realize there was more in the modding community for it than that.

I definitely have to throw together a video demonstrating various jailbreak tweaks. If I still had my 4S I would do it right now, but I'm waiting on the iOS 6.1 release to jailbreak my iPhone 5. I'll be sure to send you a link if you're still interested.

> The fact they assume that is sort of odd to a point, given how many in the Android community readily accept and mod phones without a complete source tree by Samsung, HTC and others in a similar fashion by reversing the dalvik byte code into Smali.

No doubt, I was astounded at how much I had to figure out and how many attempts I had to make to root an EVO 3D for a friend. And this was after someone had already made a handy tool for the process and spent months developing it.

All that just to take it past the awful stock HTC ROM Rogers left it on and to peel out the crapware. Jailbreaking, by contrast couldn't be simpler. However you can get away with a fair bit more on an unrooted Android device than you can with stock iOS so in reality it's just a tradeoff.

It's nice to see the phone market becoming a Windows/OS X/Linux situation though, where the differences aren't so drastic and what you use basically comes down to personal preference instead of any blatant advantages. Every time I have a chance to play around with a more recent Android device the experience has become better.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by eunice »

cheald wrote: post #267
eunice wrote: post #93

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are you suggesting there is a mobile os vendor that isn't a patent troll? goog spent 12bn acquiring a failing company just to patent troll

And the last time Google took someone to court over one of its patents was...

the google-owned motorola has

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by yareally »

shinratdr wrote: post #346
yareally wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'd love to try it out if I happen to find one cheap or one falls into my hands one day. Just as a device to hack around on and play with would be nice. I knew you could theme on iphone, but I didn't realize there was more in the modding community for it than that. You're correct about the average Android user assuming that there's nothing you can really mod with an iOS device. The fact they assume that is sort…

> I knew you could theme on iphone, but I didn't realize there was more in the modding community for it than that. I definitely have to throw together a video demonstrating various jailbreak tweaks. If I still had my 4S I would do it right now, but I'm waiting on the iOS 6.1 release to jailbreak my iPhone 5. I'll be sure to send you a link if you're still interested. > The fact they assume that is sort of odd to a po…

Sure, send the video my way whenever you have time :). I'd like to see what is possible just out of hacker curiosity and I do like to enlighten some of the more diehard Android users whenever possible for assuming everything about iOS is bad, haha.

My first Android phone was an HTC, I know where you're coming from with that. Was not the easiest thing to deal with for rooting. Nexus devices are thankfully a bit easier since you don't have to deal with working an exploit to get the bootloader unlocked and root. I pretty much vowed to avoid anything Non-Nexus in the future for that reason and a few others.

Re: An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4

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Post by skeletonjelly »

reidmain wrote: post #330
mmahemoff wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad examples :). Try Buffer and App.Net instead.

So what happens in Android with those apps? Your app opens your App.net client of choice?

Apps can register to handle URIs, which can be local, or something like http://*.reddit.com/* so whenever a link to reddit is found in say an email or web page, you can choose how to handle it, either via the browser app, or a reddit client.
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