Well, they probably filled their belly with enough user-base, now they can ignore the rest and focus on cashing in.
Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups
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Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups
#342On a related note could dear hn crowd suggest email provider (maybe paid, say up to 30-40$ annually) caring about my privacy a little bit more? Really delete my messages when I want to is a good start. Google is all good but I feel I should not put all of my emails in one account..
I've been using https://www.fastmail.fm/ forever, nothing but good things to say
I'm a very happy customer since years. Probably they have a good support too, but I haven't had any problems so I don't know =)
Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups
#343Contrarian view... by offering One could argue that the removal of the free tier at this point is simply because they've created an entrenched position, but one could also suggest that this creates a modicum of opportunity for another player to try to enter this space. Certainly until today the $ size of the addressable market in the small business email space was practically $0 given Google's position. [discuss :)]
Fastmail.fm has been around quite a while, and while I still would consider them a success, I don't think they have done much in the form of innovation. Most of the innovation I have seen in email for the year, has been in the form of the client, not the server.
From what I have read on the fastmail.fm blog, etc, they tend to do some very good stuff on the back-end, particularly(open source) contributions to the Cyrus IMAP server. These, I understand, have improved the failover and resilience of the IMAP server a lot. These might not be "innovations" in a technical sense, but they certainly make Cyrus a much better server for Enterprise users.
The less said about fastmail.fm's "innovations" on their web interface the better.
Re: Google Apps stops accepting free sign-ups
#344A few years ago they were inadvertently dropping the link to the free signup... now they've killed the product.
Not fun...
http://googleenterprise.blogspot.ro/2009/07/google-apps-stan...
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#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same with Google Reader. After they shut down Google Reader social features most heavy users flock to newly created services. When Google Reader was social & free (and without ads) it wasn't perfect but it was good enough to destroy competition.
What are these new services? I seriously can't find anything that's even comparable.
theoldreader.com seems nice
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All you need is a forwarding service to forward the incoming mail to your gmail account, as regular personal gmail can handle sending out email with a different from address. No exim4, no spamassassin, no clam-av, no figuring out which indexer to use, or any of that. Just a forward on the incoming mail.
Using a mail address different from your default Gmail (or Google Apps for Business Mail) address unfortunately does not work for some recipients. It seems that at least some versions of Microsoft Exchange/Outlook always show your default address and not the different mail address you actually used.
For anyone considering it, some MS clients (and a few others) show something like :
myemail@gmail.com on behalf of Rob Aley [me@mydomain.co.uk]
It maybe looks a little unprofessional, but as long as your gmail account isn't something like offensivewords@gmail.com or cutesexyman32@gmail.com, its not too bad.
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I always hate these comparisons because they have no basis in reality. Food, drugs, and sex are basic human drives. You can't compare them to something as ephemeral as email.
> Food, drugs, and sex are basic human drives. And then there's coffee, which exceeds them all :)
Coffee is a drug, combined with a tasty delivery mechanism that registers as food to the reptilian brain.
For that matter, so is beer!
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If that's all you want, go to nearlyfreespeech, set up your domain there, and tell it to forward emails to your gmail account. Your gmail account then can send email under that name. I did it for quite a while.
Thanks, that could be an alternative and I'll play around with it to see how it works out.
It works, but Outlook (or at least some versions) will always show your emails as being from something like "address-you-forward-to@gmail.com (via you@your-real-domain.com)" which is annoying.
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When I last looked, IMAP was not available on the free custom domains. Is that still the case?
IMAP is not, but the superior Exchange ActiveSync protocol is, through m.outlook.com - despite the name, it's just Exchange, so it works anywhere. See http://help.outlook.com/en-gb/140/bb896613.aspx for more details.
"Superior", ha!
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I do this. It's not easy, but it's not as bad as most of the comments here would lead you to believe. If you have the wherewithal to run things on a server it's definitely within reach, albeit probably not a cost-effective way to spend your time. Let me make a few recommendations. I'm not a sysadmin by trade but I know a few things you can do that will improve your lot in life running mail. - Postfix and Dovecot. The…
Do you still need to worry about SSH brute force attacks if you disable password-based login?
If you only support public key or two factor authentication you won't need to worry about brute force attacks. Most SSH brute force attacks are dictionary based using common usernames.