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Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #297
xarope wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like this is the sort of thing William Gibson should write...

There's a pretty good 2008 Mexican scifi film "sleep dealer" that covers this topic more or less

>> Sleep Dealer depicts a dystopian future to explore ways in which technology both oppresses and connects migrants.[2] A fortified wall has ended unauthorized Mexico-US immigration, but migrant workers are replaced by robots, remotely controlled by the same class of would-be emigrants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_Dealer

Nice! Thanks!

... I mean not "nice" as in "all that sounds nice" . I mean "nice" as in "nice dystopia".

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

raducu wrote: post #331
ben_w wrote: post #267

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Like how operating systems get disabled when someone launches a DDOS? :P Even if robots do get disabled in just 5 minutes, 30 seconds of surprise is plenty for a coordinated decapitation strike (both literally and metaphorically) once enough of the leadership (national or business, take your pick) normalise having these around them, in their homes, preparing things for the next morning while the owners sleep. Even on…

> 30 seconds of surprise is plenty for a coordinated decapitation strike. Some guys in a mediterranean country are drooling right now...

Sadly, those "guys in a mediterranean country" are far from the only ones who like to try and assassinate their problems away.

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

grumbelbart2 wrote: post #240
pj_mukh wrote: post #237

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Do I care? The job gets done and I don’t have to bother with letting someone physically into my home. As a parent this seems godsent if it works as advertised just for its overnight reset. Now if they can’t make the autonomy work to maintain the economics then I’d need an exit clause but other than that, have at it boss.

The risk is that this does not scale, they run out of money, the robot won't work any more, and you payed a lot for nothing.

But you'd get to keep the robot, no?

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by troglodytetrain »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #333
krunck wrote: post #325

"Is Isaac 1 teleoperated? Isaac 1 is autonomous for Laundry Flow and Daily Reset by default, with teleoperation assistance when needed to guarantee we complete tasks." Offline and autonomous or never in my house.

Completely offline will literally never happen at least not in any sort of off-the-shelf consumer product maybe in some sort of niche projects down the line

so just a quick counterpoint ---> I played around with qwen 2.5 4B recently locally. An older model and a tiny model.

Tested this model with optimized harness and it was good enough that it was able to complete (sometimes) a full job application flow for given json user data.

All that to say, I think that there is a strong possibility that we will even just with llm tech, develop it enough that local efficient models are entirely sufficient on their own to be able to drive basic robot 'harness'.

But we almost certainly will not be seeing that as the product from the corporations because they desperately want and need that data about you, for the same reason many tv (lcd/etc) companies make more money from 'ads' then from selling the tvs.

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by joelthelion »

krunck wrote: post #325

"Is Isaac 1 teleoperated? Isaac 1 is autonomous for Laundry Flow and Daily Reset by default, with teleoperation assistance when needed to guarantee we complete tasks." Offline and autonomous or never in my house.

Privacy aside, who wouldn't want their $8,000 cloud device abruptly shut down when Weave Robotics decides to pivot?

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by shostack »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #337
krunck wrote: post #325

"Is Isaac 1 teleoperated? Isaac 1 is autonomous for Laundry Flow and Daily Reset by default, with teleoperation assistance when needed to guarantee we complete tasks." Offline and autonomous or never in my house.

Look, I mean, would you really object to a human cleaner showing up every day and putting away your laundry? If the answer is "no" then what's the difference if the human cleaner is not physically present but instead teleoperating a robot? I mean at least the robot won't ever need to use the loo. I'm a bit fastidious like that but I don't like it when strangers sit on my loo. (Friends too. Why can't we have a robotic…

Generally when people have a house cleaner they know who it is and have some form of relationship with them that establishes a baseline of trust. That would not exist here.

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by haywalk »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #333
krunck wrote: post #325

"Is Isaac 1 teleoperated? Isaac 1 is autonomous for Laundry Flow and Daily Reset by default, with teleoperation assistance when needed to guarantee we complete tasks." Offline and autonomous or never in my house.

Completely offline will literally never happen at least not in any sort of off-the-shelf consumer product maybe in some sort of niche projects down the line

I’d disagree with this. As local models and compute improve, I can definitely see something like this becoming doable offline in the next decades. In the meantime, at the very least, I would never use something like this unless I could bring my own API/cloud provider so that my data isn’t being handled by the vendor. Also teleoperation is a huge no go for me.

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by cindyllm »

aspenmartin wrote: post #340
iterateoften wrote: post #324

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Yeah but if it’s a person seeing inside my home I would rather it be the same person over and over and without cameras. Teleoperated robots are a better fit for businesses and public spaces

Hey I totally agree I do not want a teleoperator looking into my house, it’s just so deliciously tempting to get in home on policy data. Not sure the reason why they are super interested in home environments vs business or public spaces.

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Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

traverseda wrote: post #44

So the play here is obvious, use the teleoperation as training data for a more general purpose AI controller. You need that data to make a model in the first place. What doesn't make sense to me is the cost. Yes, $8000 is probably low for this robot but it's a reasonable price range for something like this. The AI credits though? I know vision LLMs are not cheap, they're not going to run something like Llama3.2vision…

>> Very curious about the embodied AI architecture that this is going to use, and how it can get cheap enough that it's not going to use $500/month in electricity every month.

In practice most of the costs would be the teleoperation costs rather than AI inference.

Re: Weave Robotics launches Isaac 1, a $7,999 home robot with Fall 2026 deliveries

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

akssri wrote: post #217

This seems to be a redux of the 1x play (which was panned across the internet after the WSJ review). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3c4mQty_so The hardware for these machines have been capable of household tasks for atleast 2 decades. Here's PR1 cleaning up a room, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7JH3UWO6I0 The issue is not even teleop as a product. The issue none of these companies talk about is one of state-rese…

>> This seems to be a redux of the 1x play (which was panned across the internet after the WSJ review).

For a moment I thought it was the same company.

>> This 'environment reset' problem is at the core of RL - there are no solutions for this yet, only workarounds.

That, and generalisation. A year or so back Aloha made huge waves but teleoperation doesn't solve the fundamental limitation of RL, that you have to train anew for every new environment or task.

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