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I think the 'models have no moat' thing is overblown. Only like 3-4 companies in the entire world have cutting edge models, that means there is some kind of moat...
money. but it eventually runs out
Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI
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#342Question one: How much did this cost OpenAI? Question two: Why are OpenAI spending that money taking talent from Google, who can definitely outspend them for talent, and not Anthropic, who are leading the market and are at least somewhat financially constrained.
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It's not a question of painful - I'm happy to "admit" what's true, as best I can, and not what's not true. Let's see if we can sort that out a bit in the present case. HN is certainly curated - I've been "admitting" that since the day I got outed as a mod here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494621 (March 2014) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7507229 (April 2014) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=79629…
> snark and indignation These are preference-based but you're pretending they're objective. I find _your_ comments to be full of snark and indignation more than any you respond to, but of course you won't agree. (But because you don't agree, that makes me objectively wrong, I know.) "Tonal arguments are ways of, frankly, policing working class ways of communication, and covering them in elite preferences." - someone…
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#344Re: Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI
#345Its getting pretty lame that we talk about the these guys like they're football players transferring teams.
In this case, it's not a new thing ... back in 2005 (yes 21 years ago), people talked about the achievements of Noam Shazeer at Google (and Jeff Dean and Sanjay, etc) I always appreciated Jeff having a level head ... which this article seems to confirm: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/google-cracks-down-posts...
I've seen engmisc and industryinfo, and I agree they are sometimes insufferable but having a level head would be ignoring them.
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Is that you Musk? Twitter lost half its revenue, more than 80% of its valuation.
That was mostly because Elon told advertisers to fuck themselves at an advertising convention no?
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#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this case, it's not a new thing ... back in 2005 (yes 21 years ago), people talked about the achievements of Noam Shazeer at Google (and Jeff Dean and Sanjay, etc) I always appreciated Jeff having a level head ... which this article seems to confirm: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/google-cracks-down-posts...
Shitposting about politics on internal boards is "having a level head"? I've seen engmisc and industryinfo, and I agree they are sometimes insufferable but having a level head would be ignoring them.
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It’s not literally a slur, but because it has developed negative connotations Jewish people tend to avoid it nowadays. Online, you are more likely to see it used by antisemites. Which is why I think that story is very likely bullshit. It’s from an account that very frequently posts pro-IRGC content, and has previously used “the G word” itself. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46247908
A bit bizarre that you're dragging a six-month old post, but I stand by what I said. Nothing in that comment is pejorative. I explained my reasoning for avoiding the word downthread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48591986
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Shitposting about politics on internal boards is "having a level head"? I've seen engmisc and industryinfo, and I agree they are sometimes insufferable but having a level head would be ignoring them.
Reread the comment: Shazeer was the one shitposting about politics, not Jeff Dean. Dean called him out over it.
Re: Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI
#350Question one: How much did this cost OpenAI? Question two: Why are OpenAI spending that money taking talent from Google, who can definitely outspend them for talent, and not Anthropic, who are leading the market and are at least somewhat financially constrained.