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There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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While this is regrettable the guardrails were rather sloppy and I managed to do things with Fable that really should not be possible. It seems with all the focus cyber and bio security, threat scenario analysis went out the door. I guess they will fix the guardrails and then open it up again.

>I managed to do things with Fable that really should not be possible.

Such as?

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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But in democracy you do get to say which government you want.

You can pick which of the two possibilities, neither of which is even close to your political views, will oppress you for the next 4 years.

The solution is ranked choice voting and getting money out of politics.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> Some people over on HN and Reddit are already talking about how this represents the high water mark for what the government will ‘allow’ people to access. You can have all the demand in the world, and it won’t matter a lick if the government just won’t let you have it.

Black market LLMs are straight out of a William Gibson story.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Safety handwringing? Mythos found 1000 zero days in a few weeks - if I had asked your thoughts on this a few years ago, I'm sure it would've been "that is a super-weapon". Plus, scaling laws are impossible to deny: More compute = more intelligence. AI is going to completely redefine the role of human cognitive ability - if you think this is about "state monopoly", you're really thinking too small.

Yes, I want that 'super weapon' in everyone's hands. Better than the hands of a few. Same thing as literacy. I believe in the power of the do-gooders to overwhelm the do-badders.

This is the worst possible take. Responsible disclosure shouldn't be a thing? Defenders shouldn't have the chance to frontrun?

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Why would "EU perspective" make it look more or less complicated? People are people everywhere, regardless of country. > the American electorate is relatively simple-minded It's favorable for many people who don't agree with the current administration to believe so, I'm not sure how true it is in practice, and again, I believe believing so might hurt your chances of actually understanding things properly. That sort o…

> you're not gonna gain any understanding from a self-reported survey of ~2500 people A sample size of ~2500 is statistically huge - the margin of error is very small. You should sign up to a stats course.

Self-reported though; that throws a huge spanner in the works.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> But this government [...] I'm hearing a lot of this kind of thing. "Oh if only it was a different government". I'm sorry, but when you cry out for government involvement, it's not always going to be coming from the government you personally wanted. This is the whole problem with government involvement! I don't think that message is getting through, but it's the real lesson that should be learned here.

We're truly lost when we can't see that there is such a thing as good government and bad government. That there is a difference between corruption and modern liberal regulation that follows fair rules. That we can't see that it's ok to regulate CFCs to prevent ozone catastrophe, and not ok to use back room deals to pick favorites. It's not about sides or teams, but there is still right and wrong even in the administration of nation states. And we fluctuate along a gradient with our governments, sometimes its better, sometimes its worse, never perfect, but sometimes much better.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> Some people over on HN and Reddit are already talking about how this represents the high water mark for what the government will ‘allow’ people to access. You can have all the demand in the world, and it won’t matter a lick if the government just won’t let you have it. Black market LLMs are straight out of a William Gibson story.

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Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> Some people over on HN and Reddit are already talking about how this represents the high water mark for what the government will ‘allow’ people to access. You can have all the demand in the world, and it won’t matter a lick if the government just won’t let you have it. Black market LLMs are straight out of a William Gibson story.

Welcome to Hacker News

Thanks! I've really enjoyed my first sixteen years here!

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> But this government [...] I'm hearing a lot of this kind of thing. "Oh if only it was a different government". I'm sorry, but when you cry out for government involvement, it's not always going to be coming from the government you personally wanted. This is the whole problem with government involvement! I don't think that message is getting through, but it's the real lesson that should be learned here.

Ah yes, so we should have corporations controlling it? Because they can't be corrupt or evil?

The whole point of government control is at least everyone has some say in it, if we build the government decently. It has to be controlled by one or more human institutions, so choose your poison: government, nonprofits, forprofits, ... ?

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