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Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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It's an understandable but wrong attitude. If you don't have high profile failures like this, you aren't taking enough R&D risk. It's a fiercely ambitious industry and these launch attempts amount to what literally are moon shots. The race is on between various companies and countries as to who gets there first. Boeing is pretty much out of the race at this point. Just too busy navel gazing and lobbying. There's a bi…

Forgive my ignorance, but why would China being the next on the moon be such a bad thing? Aren't moon missions mostly just "look what I can do!" sorts of things?

Depends on your point of view. But I imagine some people in the US would not be happy to lose that race. The reason it was a race in the sixties is because they definitely didn't want the Russians to get there first.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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It's an understandable but wrong attitude. If you don't have high profile failures like this, you aren't taking enough R&D risk. It's a fiercely ambitious industry and these launch attempts amount to what literally are moon shots. The race is on between various companies and countries as to who gets there first. Boeing is pretty much out of the race at this point. Just too busy navel gazing and lobbying. There's a bi…

Boeing issue was that they in fact took the risks so that they move faster and cheaper. > There's a big risk that the next person on the moon might be from China. China seems to be focused more on pragmatic things and less on super expensive vanity projects.

They have a pretty concrete moon program. That would be one of the things they are focusing on.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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100% Bandwagon-ers who parrot media/youtube/socialmedia. Waiting to be told who to hate next.

Or because it was a thing Elon pursued: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/05/spacex-pushed-sniper-t...

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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100% Bandwagon-ers who parrot media/youtube/socialmedia. Waiting to be told who to hate next.

Yeah they shouldn't have posted that Nazi salute!!!

Irrelevant to his ability to run a company that makes good rockets at an efficient price, so... who cares? This is exactly the point of the person you're replying to.

The ad hominem destroys your ability to recognise how insanely good SpaceX and Elon are at this rocket ship thing.

Actual Nazis made a lot of stuff 75 years ago that you use and take advantage of on a daily basis. Nobody's judging you, dude. Appreciating and recognising a good scientist or businessman doesn't necessitate that you align with them ideologically.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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An unfortunate setback but rockets are hard.

The fact that the US has multiple extremely active commercial ventures plus a vibrant government programs with launches every few days just highlights har far ahead the US has become in this area of tech. Many people have never seen a rocket launch ever and yet for a big part of the US looking up in the sky and watching the amazing sight of a rocket going through staging is just a normal Tuesday evening.

That sort of expertise and base of scientists and engineers is not something other countries can just quickly replicate. For a while it looked like the US had put space on the back burner but now it’s back and bigger than ever before.

The occasional test going boom is just part of the fun in the end.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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An unfortunate setback but rockets are hard. The fact that the US has multiple extremely active commercial ventures plus a vibrant government programs with launches every few days just highlights har far ahead the US has become in this area of tech. Many people have never seen a rocket launch ever and yet for a big part of the US looking up in the sky and watching the amazing sight of a rocket going through staging i…

Achievements of SpaceX are enormous. But is US actually far ahead? Both China and EU have pretty much the same capabilities for space exploration.

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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In September 2016 almost exactly the same thing happened to a Falcon 9 at the Cape, also on a static fire. New Glenn is bigger, so bigger bang, but pretty much exactly the same thing. Off the top of my head, I recall in SpaceX's case it was a helium tank failure- a helium tank weld failed and the helium tank itself shot through the cryogenic oxygen, hit the far wall, and gave off a spark. But that sort of failure is…

Was that when a SpaceX engineer demanded immediate "roof" access to ULA's pad because they suspected someone at ULA had used a sniper rifle to shoot at the Falcon? Crazy times. Edit: yes it was https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/05/spacex-pushed-sniper-t...

> This theory appealed to SpaceX founder Elon Musk, who was asleep at his home in California when the rocket exploded. Within hours of hearing about the failure, Musk gravitated toward the simple answer of a projectile being shot through the rocket.

Man, the signs were always there, right? I think I only fully realized it in 2018 during the cave "incident".

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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This is a crushing setback for Blue Origin. I feel for the engineers. They have been the underdogs for so long, but with the recent successful recovery of the New Glenn booster, it finally seemed like they had some bragging rights. Now they're looking at a year minimum before they get back to a regular launch rhythm. The question now is: What went wrong? If they're lucky, it's just a stupid mistake. Maybe an incorrec…

> They even requested access to a ULA building to see if a sniper could have taken a shot at the rocket. > It turned out to be an exotic failure: liquid oxygen had gotten caught inside a buckled liner I gotta say, suspecting "Rival company hired a sniper" before "Dealing with liquid oxygen is very fucking hard and incredibly flammable" feels very Elon

You're assuming "before" when it's probably "investigate 100 possible causes in parallel".

Re: Blue Origin's New Glenn blows up during static fire test

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Yeah they shouldn't have posted that Nazi salute!!!

Irrelevant to his ability to run a company that makes good rockets at an efficient price, so... who cares? This is exactly the point of the person you're replying to. The ad hominem destroys your ability to recognise how insanely good SpaceX and Elon are at this rocket ship thing. Actual Nazis made a lot of stuff 75 years ago that you use and take advantage of on a daily basis. Nobody's judging you, dude. Appreciatin…

But "running the company" also involved claiming a sniper agent may have been to blame.

I think it's apropos then to consider that this is the same guy who called someone who rescued children stuck in a cave a "pedo". This is a guy who has made some unfortunate public statements.

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