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Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Three... bring back the original HN ("/r/startup") of hackers doing actual innovation and entrepreneurial stuff. It's the one that existed well before all the musings about painting by people who have never picked up a brush.

>before all the musings about painting by people who have never picked up a brush I can't tell if this is a clever dig that comically undercuts the premise of the previous line, or it's an unaware unironic attempt to separate off a perceived un-serious type of poster.

First things first - have you ever considered making a tech/art blog focused on early company dynamics where you can pontificate and share these kinds of insightful musings?

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Maybe slightly unrelated, but I've done a lot of road trips throughout the US, and there is so much land that is used unproductively, it's really incredible. Land that could be used for energy, food, or housing, just sitting empty or with abandoned structures. Imagine if we just paid people to coat their properties in solar panels - throw them on your roof, lawn, wherever you have the space. We could drive energy pri…

> We could drive energy prices down to nothing. Not when you're paying people to coat their properties in solar panels. As you noted, that would cost plenty. Solar panels also degrade over time. By the time the "free" electricity has paid for the installation, you'll need to replace it.

There are other reasons though. Whole house backup is a game changer. Battery always holding about twice our daily usage (or thrice a reduced, emergency usage) means I don’t really care about blackouts or midnight electrical company maintenance power cuts.

Direct to EV DC charging means I don’t buy gas, either. Planning for induction range and heat pump someday too. Not paying for energy about 3/4 of the year feels awesome.

Panels are cheap. Cheap to replace too. The newer ones have even better efficiency. My whole (unsubsidized) sistem cost around $15k here in Eastern Europe and amortization was never a consideration. Money well spent.

Finally, giving the finger to another crappy government-granted monopoly and proving once again that there is no such thing as a “natural” monopoly: priceless.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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And your point is? How long would you say a properly installed panel from 2000 made it in practice? How long would the modern equivalent installed in 2025 be expected to make it? And how many replacement events does each of those make for over the course of your life? Do you contest my earlier claim that solar is roughly equivalent to wood siding or an asphalt shingle roof?

> And your point is? Using 30 years as a lifetime for solar panels is risky as there are no solar panels running for 30 years, not even close. Never mind the lifetime of the power wall battery and the inverters. I bought a 40 year "premium" asphalt roof. It barely made it to 20. A regular asphalt roof, perhaps 10 years. Now I have a metal roof.

30 year roof will get replaced the same year if it gets hit by hail in southern states.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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I wish HN would split into two "subreddits", /r/HN and /r/AI > There is a certain wildness in the tech industry these days that both mimics previous eras of large changes, like cloud computing (runaway costs in the early days), and is like nothing we’ve ever seen before (record revenues accompanied by mass layoffs) if it is perceived that there is a big "winner takes all" pot of gold for the "winner" of a new market,…

That would be sweet. Same for GitHub /trending and /trending-ai. Someone at my company said, the great thing about wanting to learn about AI is that every podcast now-a-days is about AI. I do not think that is a good thing. I want to learn things of substance, and of varying topics. I don't want every thing I read and/or listen to online to be about AI.

for what it's worth, I too would like to learn about AI, and I find very few people's opinions are worth listening to, despite a deafening cacophany of people who think they belong to that rarefied club. Turns out, the basic issues most people who work with the stuff everyday grapple with is not, in fact, a useful topic for your piece. Unless you have actual relevant data (hint: you might think you do but you don't) it's not going to be worth listening too; at best, neutral, and at worse actively harmful.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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I've noticed a spike of articles with apparently anti-AI titles, but once you dig in a few paragraphs its actually a "this is just a fair warning from such-and-such, which by no means is an anti-AI bigot, and is actually a fervent AI high priest". This is getting ridiculous. Articles like this never bring a fair criticism of the many blatant concerns around AI. Its always an astroturfing-esque ad from the AI clergy.…

the problem, as with many topics, is that there are a loud chorus of voices on both sides of people who just aren't engaging with reality as it is on any deep level. You kinda have to cut through that, signal a thoughtful opinion, one who has both concerns and sees potential in the development of the day, to get past that initial hurdle. This is true generally, for most topics.

The next step up from this is signaling engagement on the topic: cite prior influential pieces and what you got from them, where your opinion differs. Move onto some novel data, or novel insights on existing data, draw conclusions that are actually relevant to other reasonable people, and you might have something worth reading.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Skill issue? Nothing prevents an LLM agent from writing a bunch of "notes to self" and using that. And the next model from picking those notes up and using them. Coding agents already do some of that natively. Hell, we might eventually get an LLM to say "wow the old AI was an incompetent idiot" after reviewing all the notes and session logs. That's how we know we reached human parity!

The context window limit prevents it, for one.

Only if you are incapable of fitting both the task and task-relevant data into it. And 1M contexts are mainstream by now.

Context size is a capacity limit, not a showstopper.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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Maybe slightly unrelated, but I've done a lot of road trips throughout the US, and there is so much land that is used unproductively, it's really incredible. Land that could be used for energy, food, or housing, just sitting empty or with abandoned structures. Imagine if we just paid people to coat their properties in solar panels - throw them on your roof, lawn, wherever you have the space. We could drive energy pri…

The land isn't being used because there is no pressing need in the market for more land use. I don't think people realize how much agriculture yields have improved since the 1950s. It is astounding really how much yield we get per acre now mostly from leveraging hybrid species actually, that has been a far bigger improvement to yields than even fertilizer use which is probably what most lay people think is the source…

The market is often either wrong or distorted by existing government policies. For some things, subsidies need to be involved to create a new industry where there isn't one. For others, subsidies are a waste of money leading to graft and excess. If I were the one with the credit card, I'd be betting big on hydroponics/vertical farms, medium to high density housing, and high speed rail.

Despite plenty of demand, high density housing still isn't getting built nearly as fast as it should. High building costs, zoning laws, and the ability to just suburban sprawl to infinity mostly prevents this.

Pretty much all vertical farming startups have gone bankrupt. There are endless benefits to vertical farms, but we don't do it because existing farms are cheap in comparison to the necessary investment to make this viable.

We don't build high speed rail because it's a multi-decade long project involving massive logistics, training programs, lots of land rights issues, and the fact that for short to medium distance trips people would probably still prefer to drive since once you get to your target destination, there's still no way to get around without a vehicle.

Re: Tech CEOs are apparently suffering from AI psychosis

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I'm not saying anything about justice. I'm saying supercharging the stupidity of actual idiots (not just people you don't like) tends to result in a pretty quick Darwin Awards. Even something comparatively benign like winning the lottery does a lot of them in.

You'd be surprised by how long a pathologically stupid system can perpetuate itself. Look at any of a million of local shitty maximums our (or any other) society is trapped in. They are all dystopian on one axis or another, and many of them are dystopian in drastically different ways. Their insanity becomes very obvious once you travel the world a bit.

I never made it to Antarctica (though I've had friends who did), so maybe it's different there. But from what I've seen, I would agree that the range of stupid-human tricks is as impressive as you say, but the judgment of the human condition as "shitty" and "dystopian" or "funny" and "heartwarming" is something have people bring with them. I've met people that were feeling sorry for me at the same time I was feeling sorry for them, and people who were inspired and motivated by me as I was by them.

If everywhere you look you see dystopian shit and never any glorious humanity, you may want to do a little soul searching.

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