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U.S. DOJ demands Apple and Google unmask over 100k users of car-tinkering app

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What would that improve in this case?

It would be written by a human. From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : > Don't post generated comments or AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans.

The comment wasn’t AI generated. And the article was partially: it contained a list compiled by AI

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I'm in Texas, and I get coal rolled multiple times a year while I'm riding my bike. One asshat actually hit my shoulder with his extended mirror. After that, I started using my GoPro as a dashcam since I wasn't able to get the asshat's license plate number.

Ok I’m not from the US. Why do people do this?

Right wing anti-environmentalist political statement.

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For those, like me, who aren't familiar with the term "rolling coal": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal

What on earth? I can't understand USA at all..

We Americans can't understand ourselves either.

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The safety part was exactly my point about the statistics. I've never come across anything to indicate that a noticable number of injuries or deaths are in any way related to equipment failure. The typical contenders are things like intoxication, drowsiness, distraction, and blatant recklessness or even anger. Headlights is the only thing I'll agree with you on as being terrible in the US (at least all the parts I've…

It’s definitely debatable, and is unlikely to be a primary factor in a significant number of events. It’s also hard to measure because the data is pretty bad. As an example, your tire could blow out and cause you to hit a drunk pedestrian. It would be flagged as an alcohol related crash. Police are mostly interested in violations and liability, and you are responsible. Unless it’s a fatality, nobody will even ask if…

Yeah and those stats show a big difference. In the UK there are 2.6 fatalities per 100,000 population on average per year. And in the USA it’s 14.2

That’s five times higher!

For those that don’t know these are all the checks done yearly to every passenger car over 3 years old. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-parts-checked...

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r...

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> If buy a brand new car from a dealer, your next stop must be an inspection station Has the car never been inspected before, since it's new? Then it'd make sense that it'd be inspected before allowed on the road, not sure this is such a big deal?

Why would a brand new car not be road worthy? Is it common for new cars to be unsafe to drive?

How would you know unless you inspect them? I'd just assumed every car needs to be inspected, new cars after they're built, but never bought a new car so I don't know how it works. I guess the manufacturer then self-reports that the car is roadworthy after the construction?

I'm currently sitting and thinking about importing a second-hand car from another country, neighboring country also in Schengen, EU and EEA, just like us, even if that car passed all their local inspections, I'm gonna have to make it pass through our local inspection before I can register it here. Kind of felt like it'd be similar with new cars, but also, I don't know.

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Why would a brand new car not be road worthy? Is it common for new cars to be unsafe to drive?

How would you know unless you inspect them? I'd just assumed every car needs to be inspected, new cars after they're built, but never bought a new car so I don't know how it works. I guess the manufacturer then self-reports that the car is roadworthy after the construction? I'm currently sitting and thinking about importing a second-hand car from another country, neighboring country also in Schengen, EU and EEA, just…

> How would you know unless you inspect them?

By making the seller lose their license if they sell cars that are not roadworthy? Why should the risk and liability be on the buyer?

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Why would a brand new car not be road worthy? Is it common for new cars to be unsafe to drive?

How would you know unless you inspect them? I'd just assumed every car needs to be inspected, new cars after they're built, but never bought a new car so I don't know how it works. I guess the manufacturer then self-reports that the car is roadworthy after the construction? I'm currently sitting and thinking about importing a second-hand car from another country, neighboring country also in Schengen, EU and EEA, just…

New cars are certified by the manufacturer to meet safety standards when built

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Vehicle regulation in the US is piss poor. Here's the full list of states that require all passenger vehicles to be inspected for safety and emissions every year: * New York * Massachussets * Vermont

Why should that be required? Let people do as they will and impose penalties for problematic behavior (including negligence). I lived in a state with safety inspections and AFAICT it was little more than yet another disproportionate speed bump for the poor and a complete waste of time for society at large. I do see the merit of inspecting larger trailers (such as for boats) once a year given the combined increased li…

The volume of incidents on the road make it entirely impossible to practically hold people accountable in that way.

If you are rear ended at a stop light because someone behind you had faulty tires or brakes, nobody is disassembling the car to try to prove negligence. If the incident was serious enough that the police even respond, the last thing they’re going to be doing on scene is measuring your brake pads.

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> Hell, I've seen a truck roll coal around cop cars and, obviously, nothing happened. > This is just gross privacy intrusion masquerading as "protecting the environment". You're conflating two entirely different groups of people working for two different governments with entirely different motivations. It is entirely possible that the cops in the situation you observed didn't have any issue because they didn't think…

How about assault? I have stood in a peaceful protest while truck after truck rolls coal in my face and the cops just watch as I am poisoned. If I sprayed mace in the car windows I would go to jail.

I mean it technically is. But clearly the cops don’t see need to charge it.

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Vehicle regulation in the US is piss poor. Here's the full list of states that require all passenger vehicles to be inspected for safety and emissions every year: * New York * Massachussets * Vermont

I wouldn’t say it’s piss poor in the entire US just because it is draconian in those 3 states.

It’s piss poor because you can go to any Walmart parking lot in this country and find vehicles visibly unsafe.
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