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Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Except gmail is hardly a cartel, etc. I've never had a gmail account.

I'd assume that you also never tried running your own email server and have the email actually delivered to a gmail address, then.

That did work for decades up until recently. It took me a bit to realize that google email recipients had stopped receiving my emails.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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Do you believe that if the government provided email, that the government wouldn't keep track of everything you did on it?

Depends on the health of our institutions. In the US at least they're legally obligated not to by the highest law in the land. It gets ignored now, but it's a more promising path to privacy-preserving digital infrastructure than letting the private market handle it.

Oh, I think it's been ignored for a long time. Remember Snowden?

> but it's a more promising path to privacy-preserving digital infrastructure than letting the private market handle it.

The history of governments suggests otherwise.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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In a better time I would expect the government to step in a acquire this fundamental service and fund it with tax money. Right now? The only intervention I would expect is a massive subsidy to pay Google to keep providing it, while also letting them continue to spy on everyone's mail (which is a crime, but not if the mail is on a computer, I guess).

Do you believe that if the government provided email, that the government wouldn't keep track of everything you did on it?

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I’d honestly expect to see regulatory intervention if they tried this.

In a better time I would expect the government to step in a acquire this fundamental service and fund it with tax money. Right now? The only intervention I would expect is a massive subsidy to pay Google to keep providing it, while also letting them continue to spy on everyone's mail (which is a crime, but not if the mail is on a computer, I guess).

Government-operated Gmail would become such a massive cesspool of spam and hijacked accounts. It'd be spectacular.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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What happens when they ask for you to get another code to that same number, though? Can you access that number again?

Can you delete the phone number after verification + switch to TOPT (with the private key written down next to your password, probably in a password manager) for 2FA? I think that's considered "more secure" in most account security flowcharts.

Yeah I try to switch everything to TOTP these days, try to remove the SMS option on whatever I can. Google offers about a dozen ways to verify your account now.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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I wish it was. I've looked everywhere for several years for anyone offering this service so I can get into my 2004 Google account that they enabled SMS 2FA on one day, without any notice, but it has the wrong phone number. I have the username, password and the recovery email address is set to another I own too, but without the SMS code I'm hosed.

You should just determine which carrier hosts the phone number and then go get a job there as a customer service agent or store employee. You'll get full permissions to change accounts, so you'll be able to make the change, fix your gmail, then change it back. You probably risk some legal fallout though, so be cautious.

This reminds me of the women who sleep with Meta employees to get their accounts unlocked. It's 2026, we gotta do what we gotta do to get our digital lives back.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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It's not just me; most people won't. That's the issue.

Why is it an issue? I don't care what other people do with their email.

I can set up all of the personal services I want. The average person does not want to do that. They do not have the skills, and it does not add value for them to do so 99.999999% of the time.

The tools and offerings we're given are built to fulfill the needs of the greatest number of people. For better or worse, those people are not people who want to mess with the infrastructure around their email.

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/products/email...

But it's only for receiving and you still need external mail server/address?

https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/get-started/...

Re: Gmail registration now requires scanning a QR code and sending a text message

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People complain a lot about Gmail, but honestly I kind of understand Google's plight here. They've essentially gotten roped into maintaining a huge chunk of internet infrastructure, for free . If they ever shut it down the whole world would end up rioting because it's so widely used. But it's expensive, complicated and time-consuming to maintain - and both a source of and recipient of endless waves of spam and scams.…

Google Ad's revenue per user is ~$50/year
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