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Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by waych »

petercooper wrote: post #333
bluefirebrand wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly if a project asks for no AI and you try to use AI for it, then you kinda deserve this. Calling the inclusion of this sort of thing "smuggling" is placing the blame in the wrong spot

I used the term "smuggling" in the casual sense of hiding something. I have edited it to "place such identifiers surreptitiously" to avoid making whatever implication appears to have been taken.

In the real world, leaving booby traps out that can harm others including the innocent are a liability and regularly a crime in itself.

I wonder how long these sorts of games will play before the law applies itself.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by throawayonthe »

amarant wrote: post #338
bluefirebrand wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly if a project asks for no AI and you try to use AI for it, then you kinda deserve this. Calling the inclusion of this sort of thing "smuggling" is placing the blame in the wrong spot

Even if you don't want prs that are ai assisted, sabotaging anyone who wants to fork your project doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of open source.

good point, perhaps if ever doing something like this it should be kept to the contribution process... somehow

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by nickthegreek »

margalabargala wrote: post #317
schubidubiduba wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TOS are not laws. They often conflict with actual laws, and are then void. So you can't just say "It's in the TOS", you do have to look at actual laws and whether they may be violated (Because it is anticompetitive or whatever else)

Sorry, are you claiming that it's illegal (in the US, where Anthropic operates) for Anthropic to decline to operate on a repo that contains commits relating to OpenClaw? Or just that in your opinion, it should be illegal? Simply doing something anticompetitive is not inherently illegal, despite a lot of people thinking it is.

It doesnt decline if you have API billing enabled, it straight up charges your request to API instead of Quota if setup (see $200 charge example below). This is happening if you have the words HERMES.md or OpenClaw apparently in the commit. In OP's example, it immediately depleted his session quota because of the words. That is not 'declining to operate'. Also, remember, it is the presence of the words. So if the commit was 'we dont do this, we arent openclaw', you are affected.

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/53262#issue...

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by GrinningFool »

throwaway277432 wrote: post #113
rich_sasha wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's rather shitty. It's one thing to disallow bypassing preferential pricing models, it's a completely different thing to castrate your model against some uses. You can see how it goes in the future. Wanna vibe code a throwaway script? $0.20. Ah, it's for a legal document search? $10k then. Oh and we'll charge 20% of your app sales too - I can see how they are going in real time, mind you!

Unironically yes. I predict that costs will grow to 80% of what it would cost a human, across the board for everything AI can do. "It's still cheaper than a human" they'll say. Loudly here on HN too. Of course this will happen slowly, very slowly. Lets meet again in 10-20 years.

> I predict that costs will grow to 80% of what it would cost a human, across the board for everything AI can do.

80% of a human's price varies greatly by region. 80% of the lowest-priced effort-of- humans in this space right now will probably not be sustainable for the sellers.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by SlinkyOnStairs »

petercooper wrote: post #232
abdullin wrote: post #46

I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

I wonder if projects which are anti-AI could place such identifiers surreptitiously into docs or commits as a way to sabotage people using Claude Code. Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.

There is no "if". They could.

There's no separation between parts of the prompt. You sneak that text in, anywhere, and it'll work. Whether Anthropic is using a regex or some LLM to detect the mentions of OpenClaw doesn't even matter.

> Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.

With how many projects automatically AI-review PRs, they're just sitting ducks. You don't even need to hide it, put it clear and center and there's your denial of service.

Could even automate it.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by nickthegreek »

otterley wrote: post #280
nickthegreek wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the stealing of $200 here? More non malice? https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/53262#issue...

Last I heard, the money is being refunded.

I do a see a tweet saying something about that, which I had to search for and only did because of your post. But remember, this only came about after denying him the refund first (while thanking him for the 'bug' and told they would fix the problem) and it going viral on HN and X.

I'm sure they will proactively reach out to everyone who was affected without any need on the users part and make everyone whole....

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