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Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by Avicebron »

throwpoaster wrote: post #321
Avicebron wrote: post #254

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Does that include trying to influence moral, ethical, and legal frameworks to the benefit of the investors as well? Because if it does it is kind of a moot point.

Yes, although as the Koch Brothers point out in their book: you have to play by the rules that exist, not the rules you want. If you read, eg, Buffet, he makes the point that a manager donating to a political cause, whether the Heritage Foundation or, God forbid, something as far right as the SPLC, makes that donation with money that otherwise accrues to the shareholders. The manager therefore creates an agency probl…

> I am not surprised that the Left advocates for backdoor wealth redistribution, but I would prefer they be honest about it.

I'm pretty sure it's not just the Left team that advocates for bribes (sorry lobbying) to politicians. I don't think that's a very commonly held understanding of wealth redistribution either...but this argument you present isn't very coherent which is somewhat expected so I guess keep on keeping on..

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by rdiddly »

abustamam wrote: post #309
moritzwarhier wrote: post #137

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Are you conflating telemetry with literally live-streaming your life to Meta? Because that's what makes the statement weird. edit 2: OK, I see what you mean. But I'm wondering if it should be possible to consent to this via T&C. Basically the same issue as with many online services, turned up to 11, sure. And it involves OTHER people, who have not consented. Stuff like this used to be outrage fuel even when it was mo…

Tangential but I always thought reality shows like Big Brother were mostly staged. Like not scripted, but definitely not natural.

Yes, they are "lightly scripted."

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Post by devilbunny »

nozzlegear wrote: post #340
devilbunny wrote: post #234

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That seems reasonable though. The FBI isn’t interested in busting one perv in a closet, they want the ones making the stuff.

The FBI is interested in busting perverts in closets. That's often how they work their way up the "supply chain" when it comes to CSAM. Consumers lead them to distributors, who lead them to producers.

A fair point. But it still seems reasonable that only about 1% of suspect posts lead to a formal inquiry. Doesn’t mean they aren’t taking the report into account. You have to figure that they already have leads on most of them.

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by devilbunny »

prmoustache wrote: post #331
devilbunny wrote: post #225

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> Server moderators should be legally responsible for content on their server. And therefore anything that is remotely questionable will be blocked. Not just kiddie porn. Pissed off a local business with a bad review? Blocked. Child abusers are twisted people, and I really don’t care much what happens to them, but making it impossible for them to use the internet means sterilizing the whole thing.

>And therefore anything that is remotely questionable will be blocked. Not just kiddie porn. Pissed off a local business with a bad review? Blocked. This is already the case. There is a lot of lawful, useful, medical or educational content that is actively censured on social medias because they include words or pictures of organs while same social medias actively encourage and develop algorithm to push underage girls…

> a lot of lawful, useful, medical or educational content

Like what? It’s all there on Wikipedia, and for all of Wiki’s faults, I have trouble imagining what kind of useful, educational, medical information you will find on social media that is better than that.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

DrewADesign wrote: post #305
thaumasiotes wrote: post #278

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> starting with the fact that Meta is collecting this data to begin with. But that can't be the problem. They're collecting the data that users send them. To avoid collecting it despite the expressed wishes of the user, they'd need to be able to recognize it as untouchable. And recognizing the data is the exact problem that this African firm was hired to help with. What do you want Meta to do?

Ok, let’s see that consent form and how explicitly it states that random call center people will possibly look at anything you record. I’ll bet you a crisp $50 it was a form designed to be as click-through-worthy as possible, being sure to not trigger the “wait, should I do this?” reflex in users, and also not loudly disclosing that you could still use the device without agreeing, if you even can, while still technic…

I can't say anything about the consent form. The privacy policy for the glasses is here: https://www.meta.com/legal/ray-ban-stories/facebook-view-pri...

It incorporates by reference the general Facebook privacy policy. The relevant subsection is here: https://www.facebook.com/privacy/policy?subpage=4.subpage.12...

Facebook reserves the right to share any information they have about you with their contractors, for purposes including but not limited to:

- investigating suspicious activity

- improving the functionality of their products

- providing technical infrastructure services

- analyzing how their products are used

- conducting research

Re: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs

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Post by booleandilemma »

dhosek wrote: post #306

This headline reminds me that “row” is one of these words I’ve been mispronouncing almost my whole life (I just learned the correct pronunciation this year). In this context row rhymes with cow,¹ now dough. ⸻ 1. The first rhyme that came to mind was bow, but I realized there was a problem with that example.

That's amazing. I've also been mispronouncing it incorrectly my entire life. Thanks for this info! I'm a native English speaker and my language continues to surprise me.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/row#dictionary-en...

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Post by SoftTalker »

powvans wrote: post #29
arowthway wrote: post #5

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Also make sure to avoid people with smartphones and places with video surveilence.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. There's also nothing stopping us from stigmatizing the use of smartphones in public. Even a slight discouragement of it would be progress. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

I think smartphones are a lost cause. Even at the gym, there are guys in the locker room taking pics of themselves in the mirror. Meanwhile I'm walking ass-naked out of the shower. There is just no sensitivity to appropriate time and place anymore.

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Post by SoftTalker »

finghin wrote: post #126
ryandrake wrote: post #107

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> > Meta said this was for the purpose of improving the customer experience, and was a common practice among other companies. > Am I reading this correctly?! This is probably the weirdest statement I've read on the internet in twenty years. It's total fantasy. I've worked in big tech. Casually uploading and providing company/contractor access to non-redacted intimate photos or pictures of the insides of people's home…

With lawyers like these, …

Read Careless People it tells you all you need to know.

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Post by arowthway »

salawat wrote: post #260
intended wrote: post #182

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Imagine someone pulling up a smartphone and then recording everything that happens around them. Contrast that with someone wearing smart glasses and doing that exact same thing. On a separate note, (and this is a genuine question) are you by any chance aware the term Non-consensual intimate imagery / NCII? I am beginning to suspect that the average HN goer isn’t aware of the scope and scale of the Trust and Safety pr…

They don't care. Or they refuse to realize that tech isn't the solution to it, but an amplifier of it's scale. Can tell you that my urge to take photos/record drastically dips around other people. Particularly if it were meant for any sort of commercial exploitation. Stephenson called people wired for max indiscriminate data collection/processing "gargoyles". Personally I prefer glassholes. https://www.tabletmag.com/…

I admit it's hard to care for what you people can't even articulate
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