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Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by Saline9515 »

culi wrote: post #340
Saline9515 wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked for a single article representing this point of view. If it is so common, it should be easy to find? No?

Yes, you would have a very easy time finding one.

If you can't show any proof or even circumstantial evidence of your theory, it's worthless and the Economist is not a China-doomer paper.

The reality is that it's a lie and the Economist is quite balanced about China (even while they are banned from publishing there!). For instance, their latest cover was quite positive about the country: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes...

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by glerk »

Fricken wrote: post #298
glerk wrote: post #213

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> The government's legitimacy comes from it's stick being bigger than yours By the same argument, are Somalian warlords and Mexican drug cartel also legitimate in the territories they control? I don't think "legitimate" is the word you are looking for to describe pure power dynamics, since "legitimate" is imbued with a moralistic judgement (look up is vs ought etc.). But yes, in practice, if I have a gun pointed at m…

The history of civilization is warlords showing up and saying "Give me 2 bags of wheat from each crop and I won't kill you. Not only that, once I own you, I will fight to make sure the other ensure the other guy can't steal you from me, and that you remain productive." So long as the warlord can make good on that agreement, you have political order. Over time many abstractions emerge, but backing it all up is the big…

> As an anarchist I view civilization to be a hack on the human condition, and I see all states as fundamentally authoritarian.

I think we are not really in disagreement, it's mainly an argument over the semantics of "legitimate" at this point :) Rousseau and Hobbes were both right.

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by culi »

Saline9515 wrote: post #341
culi wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you would have a very easy time finding one.

If you can't show any proof or even circumstantial evidence of your theory, it's worthless and the Economist is not a China-doomer paper. The reality is that it's a lie and the Economist is quite balanced about China (even while they are banned from publishing there!). For instance, their latest cover was quite positive about the country: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes...

Here bud

https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by ch4s3 »

culi wrote: post #343
Saline9515 wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can't show any proof or even circumstantial evidence of your theory, it's worthless and the Economist is not a China-doomer paper. The reality is that it's a lie and the Economist is quite balanced about China (even while they are banned from publishing there!). For instance, their latest cover was quite positive about the country: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2026/04/01/how-china-hopes...

Here bud https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/

Those aren't from The Economist, the articles mentioned there are from Vox, the Guardian, and Al Jazeera.

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by ch4s3 »

culi wrote: post #331
bit-anarchist wrote: post #326

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The burden of proof is on the claimaint, you. Don't push your due dilligence onto others.

Imagine if you had to provide a source every time you claimed The Holocaust happened.

What a weird argument to make.

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Post by burnerRhodov2 »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #288
burnerRhodov2 wrote: post #212

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The United States is appearing "More Stable" on the international stage with recent events. Normal people might see it as ruled by a "madman", but on the international stage they know what it is... Projecting dominance and forcing the will of America. People seem to forget Iran murdered thousands of innocent civilians with automatic weapons being fired into crowds... and then you call our president a "madman" for des…

I dunno, he claimed to have already done that a few months ago. I don't have any confidence at all that this is his real motivation.

that was before they started using automatic weapons against their own populace and taking down the internet. After that, they needed a double tap.

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by bit-anarchist »

ch4s3 wrote: post #344
culi wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here bud https://old.reddit.com/r/China/comments/yzol6h/

Those aren't from The Economist, the articles mentioned there are from Vox, the Guardian, and Al Jazeera.

They are also 10 years old.

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by quleap »

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #12

Manus is saved, 2 billion is such an undervaluation considering much worse companies like minimax is valued at 30 billion.

Manus is just a joke. MiniMax develops one of world's leading open source LLMs. You comparison is an insult to MiniMax.

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by ch4s3 »

bit-anarchist wrote: post #347
ch4s3 wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those aren't from The Economist, the articles mentioned there are from Vox, the Guardian, and Al Jazeera.

They are also 10 years old.

That user always does this. They make bold claims then frantically google and fail to read their own links, and it’s always in favor of China or some communist dictatorship.

Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus

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Post by NoGravitas »

bluegatty wrote: post #339
NoGravitas wrote: post #315

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As I said, National Security ghouls.

You made a vacuous comment, lacking any reason or principle. The 'National Security Ghouls' are those arresting people for comments such as yours, putting them into camps, cutting access to information, disabling travel or access to services, shutting down expression and dissent, intervening in judicial affairs, arresting journalists, telling students what they cannot say, threatening and intimidating ex-pats etc..

Oh, you mean ICE? No, NatSec ghouls are more bipartisan than that.
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