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I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

mlinsey wrote: post #324
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #294

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> Or just don't use AI to write code. Anecdata, but I'm still finding CC to be absolutely outstanding at writing code. It's regularly writing systems-level code that would take me months to write by hand in hours, with minimal babysitting, basically no "specs" - just giving it coherent sane direction: like to make sure it tests things in several different ways, for several different cases, including performance, comp…

My anecdata is that it heavily depends on how much of the relevant code and instructions it can fit in the context window. A small app, or a task that touches one clear smaller subsection of a larger codebase, or a refactor that applies the same pattern independently to many different spots in a large codebase - the coding agents do extremely well, better than the median engineer I think. Basically "do something real…

> My anecdata is that it heavily depends on how much of the relevant code and instructions it can fit in the context window.

Agreed, but I'm working on something >100k lines of code total (a new language and a runtime).

It helps when you can implement new things as if they're green-field-ish AND THEN implement and plumb them later.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by robotnikman »

nikolay wrote: post #121

I can agree. ChatGPT 5.5 made this a no-brainer choice. Anthropic are idiots removing Claude Code from the Pro plan. They need to ask Claude if what they did was a natural intelligence bug! Greed kills companies, too!

>removing Claude Code from the Pro plan

Wait really? I wanted to give it a try, but for $200 a month no way am I paying that for something I just want to experiment around with

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by taikahessu »

buredoranna wrote: post #328
gwerbin wrote: post #225

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Or just don't use AI to write code. Use it as a code reviewer assistant along with your usual test-lint development cycle. Use it to help evaluate 3rd party libraries faster. Use it to research new topics. Use it to help draft RFCs and design documents. Use it as a chat buddy when working on hard problems. I think the AI companies all stink to high heaven and the whole thing being built on copyright infringement stil…

> the whole thing being built on copyright infringement I am not a lawyer, but am generally familiar with two "is it fair use" tests. 1. Is it transformative? I take a picture, I own the copyright. You can't sell it. But if you take a copy, and literally chop it to pieces, reforming it into a collage, you can sell that. 2. Does the alleged infringing work devalue the original? If I have a conversation with ai about "…

In order for LLM to be useful, you need to copy and steal all of the work. Yes, you can argue you don't need the whole work, but that's what they took and feed it in.

And they are making money off of other people's work. Sure, you can use mental jiujutsu to make it fair use. But fair use for LLMs means you basically copy the whole thing. All of it. It sounds more like a total use to me.

I hope the free market and technology catches up and destroys the VC backed machinery. But only time will tell.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by joquarky »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #296

I think there’s a clear split amongst GenAI developers. One group is consistently trying to play whack-a-mole with different models/tools and prompt engineering and has shown a sine-wave of success. The other group, seemingly made up of architects and Domain-Driven Design adherents has had a straight-line of high productivity and generating clean code, regardless of model and tooling. I have consistently advised all…

I kind of wonder if people with ADHD tend to fall into the latter group, as we are used to setting guardrails to keep us aligned to a goal.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by munk-a »

_puk wrote: post #318
munk-a wrote: post #247

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> Stop trying to use it as all-or-nothing. You can still make the decisions, call the shots, write code where AI doesn't help and then use AI to speed up parts where it does help. You're assuming that finding the places where AI needs help isn't already a larger task than just writing it yourself. AI can be helpful in development in very limited scenarios but the main thrust of the comment above yours is that it take…

The problem I have with this take is it's focused on solving the right now problem. Yes, it's quicker to do it yourself this time, but if we build out the artifacts to do a good enough job this time, next time it'll have all the context it needs to take a good shot at it, and if you get overtaken by AI in the meantime you've got an insane head start. Which side of history are you betting on?

I don't believe that investing more of my time in a slower process now would result in an advantage if that other process was refined. I've toyed around with these tools and know enough to get an environment up and running so what would I gain from using them more right now if those tools may significantly change before they're adapted to more efficient usage?

I'm okay not being at the bleeding edge - I can see the remains of the companies that aggressively switch to the new best thing. Sometimes it'll pay off and sometimes it won't. I am comfortable being a person that waits until something hits a 2.0 and the advantages and disadvantages are clear before seriously considering a migration.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by 8ytecoder »

dandaka wrote: post #145
Retr0id wrote: post #88

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I also use it this way and I'm overall pretty happy with it, but it feels like they really want us to use it in "autopilot" mode. It's like they have two conflicting priorities of "make people use more tokens so we can bill them more" and "people are using more tokens than expected, our pricing structure is no longer sustainable" (but I guess they're not really conflicting, if the "solution" involves upgrading to a h…

autopilot (yolo mode) is amazing and feels great, truly delegate instead of hand-holding on every step

I use Claude “on the web” or Google Jules. Essentially everything happens in a sandbox - so yolo isn’t a huge risk. You can even box its network access. You review the PR at the end or steer it if it’s veering off course.

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Post by windexh8er »

KaiserPro wrote: post #292
windexh8er wrote: post #241

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> Like yesterday? LLM-assisted coding is $100/mo. It looks very commoditized when most houses in developed world pay more for electricity than that. But, it's not $100/mo. I think the best showcase of where AI is at is on the generative video side. Look at players like Higgsfield. Check out their pricing and then go look at Reddit for actual experiences. With video generation the results are very easy to see. With co…

> I think the best showcase of where AI is at is on the generative video side. Look at players like Higgsfield. Check out their pricing and then go look at Reddit for actual experiences. With video generation the results are very easy to see Video is a different ballgame entirely, its less than realtime on _large_ gpus. moreover because of the inter-frame consistency its really hard to transfer and keep context Runni…

My point wasn't the delta in work between video and text generation. It was that the degradation of a prompt is much more visible (because: literal). But, generally agree on the research/dev part.

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Post by ebiester »

mchusma wrote: post #313
BowBun wrote: post #306

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In industry, the cost is more than 100/mo for engineers. With increased adoption and what I know now, I expect full time devs to rack up $500-$2000 usage bills if they're going full parallel agentic dev. Personal usage for projects and non-production software is not a benchmark IMO

I work with a lot of full-time devs, and it is very hard to go beyond the $200 max plan. If you use API credits, and I think the enterprise plan kind of forces you to do this, you can definitely incur this much, particularly if you're not using prompt caching and things like that. But I and others in my company have very heavy usage. We only rarely, with parallel agentic processes, run out of the $200 a month plan. A…

Business/Enterprise accounts are billed at $20/seat + API prices, not subscription prices. You can give them a monthly dollar quota or let them go unlimited, but they're not being subsidized like in team. And team can't get a 20x plan from what I can tell.

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Post by nikolay »

robotnikman wrote: post #342
nikolay wrote: post #121

I can agree. ChatGPT 5.5 made this a no-brainer choice. Anthropic are idiots removing Claude Code from the Pro plan. They need to ask Claude if what they did was a natural intelligence bug! Greed kills companies, too!

>removing Claude Code from the Pro plan Wait really? I wanted to give it a try, but for $200 a month no way am I paying that for something I just want to experiment around with

It was all over the Hacker News, but they do have a $100/mo Max plan. But so does OpenAI now, too. I guess companies assume people are willing to cough up hundreds of dollars per month, and we are. I need to review all my AI subscriptions, as it's over $1,000 per month now - $250 for Gemini Ultra (although it comes with tons and tons of other benefits), plus, it could be shared with my family - other companies live in a world where families don't exist, and people don't share a work laptop for both personal and corporate stuff. Add $200 for Claude Max and $100 for ChatGPT Pro. Add Cursor, add Zed, add Lovable, add a bunch of other things I'm experimenting with... It's getting expensive!

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Post by BeetleB »

zkmon wrote: post #148
syhol wrote: post #33

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https://pi.dev/ seems popular, whats not open source about opencode? The repo has an MIT License.

Maybe it's just my feeling. It asks to update/upgrade continuously.

It's completely open source, but is under heavy continual development (likely a lot of AI coding).

On launch, it checks for updates and autoupdates.

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