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Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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I was hosting a Karaoke event in my town and really went out of my way to ensure my promotional poster looked nothing like AI. I really really really did not want my townfolks thinking I would use AI to design a poster. My design rules were: No gradients; no purple; prefer muted colors; plenty of sharp corners and overlapping shapes; Use the Boba Milky font face;

Yes, but… https://imgur.com/a/cYn68Cp

I mean: https://imgur.com/a/BYikxEI

The difference is very stark:

- The AI has a hard time making the geometric shapes regular. You see the stars have different size arms at different intervals in the AI version. This will take a human artist longer time to make it look worse.

- The 5-point stars are still a little rounded in the AI version.

- There is way too much text in the AI version (a human designer might make that mistake, but it is very typical of AI).

- The orange 10 point star in the right with the text “you are the star” still has a gradient (AI really can’t help it self).

- The borders around the title text “Karaoke night!” bleed into the borders of the orange (gradient) 10-point star on the right, but only half way. This is very sloppy, a human designer would fix that.

- The font face is not Milky Boba but some sort of an AI hybrid of Milky Boba, Boba Milky and comic sans.

- And finally, the QR code has obvious AI artifacts in them.

Point I’m making, it is very hard to prompt your way out of making a poster look like AI, especially when the design is intentional in making it not look like AI.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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I've been trying out the new model like this: OPENAI_API_KEY="$(llm keys get openai)" \ uv run https://tools.simonwillison.net/python/openai_image.py \ -m gpt-image-2 \ "Do a where's Waldo style image but it's where is the raccoon holding a ham radio" Code here: https://github.com/simonw/tools/blob/main/python/openai_imag... Here's what I got from that prompt. I do not think it included a raccoon holding a ham radio…

Damn. There’s a fun game app to make here ^^

Is there? The moment you look closely at the puzzle (which is... the whole point of Where's Waldo), you notice all the deformities and errors.

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the tragedy of image generating ai is that it is used to massively create what already exists instead of creating something truly unique - we need ai artists - and yeah, they will not be appreciated

so yeah a smart move of openai would be to sponsor artists - provokant ones, junior ones, with nothing to lose - but that cell in the spreadsheet will be too small to register and will prop. never happen

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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This is where I’m at. If you can’t be bothered to write/make it, why would I be bothered to read or review it?

Because I'm not an artist and can't afford to pay one for whatever business I have? This idea that only experts are allowed to do things is just crazy to me. A band poster doesn't have to be a labor of love artisanal thing. Were you mad when people made band posters with MS word instead of hiring a fucking typesetter? I just don't get it.

What, a music band's poster, 'typeset' in Microsoft Word? I cannot imagine bothering to go to such a band's concert.

What's your rock band called, "SEC Form 10-K"?

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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Are you asking if the 10 seconds it takes AI to generate an image is more costly to the environment than a commissioned graphics artist using a laptop for 5-6 hours, or a painter who uses physical media sourced from all over the world?

In short, yes. A modern laptop is running almost fanless, like a 486 from the days of yore. A single H200 pumps out 700W continuously in a data center, and you run thousands of them. Also, don't forget the training and fine tuning runs required for the models. Mass transportation / global logistics can be very efficient and cheap. Before the pandemic, it was cheaper to import fresh tomatoes from half-world away rathe…

This is a plainly dishonest comparison. A single H200 does not need to run continuously for you to generate a dozen pictures. And then you immediately pivot to comparing the paint usage against "the grand scheme of things"- 700W is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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Here is my regular "hard prompt" I use for testing image gen models: "A macro close-up photograph of an old watchmaker's hands carefully replacing a tiny gear inside a vintage pocket watch. The watch mechanism is partially submerged in a shallow dish of clear water, causing visible refraction and light caustics across the brass gears. A single drop of water is falling from a pair of steel tweezers, captured mid-splas…

Looks like your image host has rate limited viewing the shared images, wanted to give you a heads up

Thanks, I need to get off Zight, they used to be such an nice option for fast file share but they've really suffered some of the worst enshittification I've seen yet.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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> On the flip side, there are hundreds of ways that these tools cause genuine harm, not just to individuals but to entire systems. Yeah, agree. I think it's the first time I'm asking myself: Ok, so this new cool tech, what is it good for? Like, in terms of art, it's discarded (art is about humans), in terms of assets: sure, but people is getting tired of AI-generated images (and even if we cannot tell if an image is…

The issue is that the signalling makes sense when human generated work is better than AI generated. Soon AI generated work will be better across the board with the rare exception of stuff the top X% of humans put a lot of bespoke highly personalized effort into. Preferring human work will be luxury status-signalling just like it is for clothing, food, etc.

> Preferring human work will be luxury status-signalling just like it is for clothing, food, etc.

What? Those items are luxuries when made by humans because they are physical goods where every single item comes with a production and distribution cost.

Re: ChatGPT Images 2.0

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I had exactly the same thought! I've got a game I've been wanting to build for over a decade that I recently started working on. The art is going to be very challenging however, because I lack a lot of those skills. I am really hoping the AI tools can help with that. Is anyone doing this already who can share information on what the best models are?

Use the imagegen skill in codex and ask it to create sprites. It works really well.

I didn't have great success last i tried, but i will give it another shot this week. Presumably they incorporated improvements to the skill?

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absolutely without a doubt it is

If that energy is used for research, maybe. If used to answer customer questions or generate Studio Ghibli knock-offs, it's not worth it, even a bit .

what’s the difference between those two? how can you say one has more value than the other?

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My test for image models is asking it to create an image showing chess openings. Both this model and Banana pro are so bad at it. While the image looks nice, the actual details are always wrong, such as showing pawns in wrong locations, missing pawns, .. etc. Try it yourself with this prompt: Create a poster to show opening game for Queen's Gambit to teach kids to play chess.

What move? Who's turn is it? Declined or accepted? Garbage in, garbage out.

Kasparov vs Karpov ‘87 Olympiad. Move 6
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