Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker • Hacker News Board

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Post by yaro330 » Fri, May 01, 2026, 12:27 PM UTC

neonstatic wrote: post #131

yaro330 wrote: post #124

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Durov is about as anti-Putin and russia in general as one can get. He go fucked hard in russia and has been going extremely hard against the censorship in russia. TG is one of the few chat apps that can avoid russia's suppression measures, when everything else working over internet fails.

Half of Russian military uses it in the field. I do not care what story that guy is spreading around about his affiliations or lack of with Russia. Zero trust. Never touching Telegram.

They use Signal too. And GPS. Gonna never touch those too?

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Post by fsflover » Sat, May 02, 2026, 7:19 PM UTC

TommyTran732 wrote: post #336

fsflover wrote: post #329

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> A "microphone killswitch" is supposed to protect the user against having their convos being snooped on when it's toggled and still be able to use the phone in a meaningful manner LOL, it's hard to imagine a more ridiculous and self-contradicting statement than this. 1. It's just physically impossible to defend from tracking, when the phone has networking connections on. Not even on all-mighty GrapheneOS. 2. I am us…

> It's just physically impossible to defend from tracking, when the phone has networking connections on. Not even on all-mighty GrapheneOS. I can use GrapheneOS with the global mic toggled off and sensors toggled off/denied to apps. I can still text, browse the internet, and check my emails while talking to my friends. I can go about my day, receive notifications, be a productive member of society while being reasona…

> I can use GrapheneOS with the global mic toggled off and sensors toggled off/denied to apps.

You can only do that, if you are sure your software isn't compromised. You can never prove that, if your adversary is sufficiently big.

Re: Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker

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Post by fsflover » Sat, May 02, 2026, 7:27 PM UTC

TommyTran732 wrote: post #339

fsflover wrote: post #338

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@TommyTran732, you are going to a great length to downplay everything about devices/companies promoting freedom, including Librem 5, Purism, and laptops with Heads. And you are promoting proprietary staff instead. This looks like trolling or astroturfing. For observers, here is the actual quote from the heads developer, not in the (incorrect) interpretation of TommyTran732: As I pointed before @TommyTran732 and to an…

Yeah, why are you selectively reading? This is after he admitted what I said was true. His only contention is that he thinks it's hard to know what the PCR values should be to fake, so he calls that "security". You are being extra ordinarily disingenuous here. The actual admission (requires a login): https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/how-exactly-is-heads-pureboot-s... His words, not mine: > The goal of Heads is to bring r…

He said it was possible but not easy at all. Doesn't it even require opening the device and breaking the nail polish pattern?