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Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

I could see being concerned about food safety; I wouldn't trust an AI recipe to tell me how long/what temperature to cook chicken, and I might not trust someone who uses AI to generate recipes to know either.

An appropriate response might be asking "Hey, I don't trust AI... what's the recipe?"

The described action seems performative and emotional, as it they were ideologically opposed to AI. Like spitting out food because it was prepared by a caste you found unclean.

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I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

I think you're just in a strange bubble of people because those are absolutely comical responses to learning of AI. I do know some people who are for or anti AI to a stronger extent, but most of those I know simply don't give a shit, they'll use AI if it's there, such as for their job or to ask an LLM questions, but otherwise not think about it.

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I don't condone it, but I understand the anger. The billionaire class has enabled armed masked police in our streets, endless layoffs, basically don't pay taxes at any reasonable percentage, and basically have rigged politics with Citizens United. Given that, I can see how people are resorting to 18th century French tactics.

The top 1% of income earners pay 40% of all the federal taxes collected. The top 25% pay 89% of taxes. Net of transfers, 60% of households receive more from government transfers than they pay in taxes. The idea that rich people don't pay taxes is just not correct. The entire system is basically rich people subsidizing everybody else through byzantine distributional systems.

What is happening is that they are becomming richer and lower ranks are becomming poorer. Simply, they are so much richer that the little fraction they pay on taxes looks big.

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People in politics aren't that dissimilar to tech bros (especially AI ones) in terms of world view.

People in "local politics" are random neighbors, almost none of whom are "in politics" in the colloquial sense.

Fair enough, but I still think it at least somewhat applies to people who are willing to get involved in any kind of political process beyond the very basics or perhaps some special interest groups.

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> look at Iran and US. Where is "rule of law"? Who is going to give it magically? Rule of law - in this case, international law - has governed the Strait of Hormuz and relations between the US and Iran for decades. It's not magical or fantasy at all, but a very well-established and effective mechanism that has been the foundation of the most peaceful world arguably in human history. There is no valid argument that it…

> The Trump administration explicitly aims to destroy that rule of law. It's not just Trump. Trump and Biden both shredded the rule of law for Israel. I think both parties being captured by a genocidal foreign government has caused mass dissolution with the ability of the US to act within any framework that brings justice.

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I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Well, Sam Altman and Jensen Huang are going around bragging about how many people they're going to push out of employment. Might have something to do with it.

This.

Sam's got 3 billion net worth.

Jensen's got 165 billion to his name.

They are giddy about taking jobs away, and both are engaged in "tax reduction strategies" and suck up to Donald Trump.

You wonder why people are pissed?

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People in "local politics" are random neighbors, almost none of whom are "in politics" in the colloquial sense.

Fair enough, but I still think it at least somewhat applies to people who are willing to get involved in any kind of political process beyond the very basics or perhaps some special interest groups.

They are nothing remotely like "tech bros", is my point.

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Definitely deplorable. If he is as many claim him to be, and the info about pushing hard to control the narrative recently is accurate, the timing certainly is suspect. But part of the point of a false flag is to make it hard to discuss whether it is a false flag, and ideally to see that it is never determined one way or another.

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Do you spend much time with people not in the tech world? I think you'd be surprised how many people hold similar sentiments, even if not to such an extreme, especially once you talk to people in the real world. I've heard far more support for this sort of thing in real life than I have online due to fear of repercussions. Hell, even the president regularly calls for and promotes violence, so I don't think it's that…

> Do you spend much time with people not in the tech world? Most of it. Across the political spectrum. > even if not to such an extreme That’s precisely the point. There is a massive difference between doing or aiding and abetting such behavior, cheering it on, and giving into the impulse of “couldn’t have happened to a worse person” before self correcting. There are a few saints who reject the violence at first glan…

> To what numerical end?

How many people live in Iran, who he just threatened to genocide? How many people hold views that Trump thinks make them his enemy, including being critical of ICE? How many immigrants are in the country? It's going to be a very large number, no matter how you slice it.

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Yeah, the number of people connecting a potential war crime in a military operation to Sam Altman’s San Francisco residence with violent intent are slim.

I’m not saying this was due to war crimes. I’m saying war crimes blew the Overton window for violence wide open.

> war crimes blew the Overton window for violence wide open

I see no evidence of this. We didn’t see it after Iraq. And Luigi predates all this.

These aren’t organized political movements. They’re lone actors reaching breaking points. That don’t need a theory of violence, just access to guns and a day of mental instability.

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