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AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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A decade or two from now your children will be dropping thousands of dollars to go to a concert to hear AI generated music from an AI generated artist.

And they'll "go to" the concert at home with their VR headsets

No way, even in this future VR still won’t catch on with the mainstream.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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I find the production and consumption of AI music to be uniquely... anti-human. You can make utilitarian arguments for most other uses of AI. For example, the code you're generating didn't exist before, and it would take serious time or money to write it. So, I get it, the economic argument is compelling enough. But music? There's basically an inexhaustible supply of human-created tracks that can be accessed for next…

But what if you like to listen to a specific genre? Say electo-swing ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_swing ) There isn't that much good electro-swing made by humans, and not much new coming out. One can easily consume it all and want to hear some new tunes in that genre, and maybe AI can help with that.

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Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song…

While I think it's an opinion that's somewhat valid and I wouldn't really blame anyone for consuming art this way, it's definitely missing a lot of what art can be about. A piece of art is not a self-contained thing, the end result isn't where all (or even most) of the interest resides. The intent of the artist, the point they're making, the history that led to it, the references it makes and why, the choices and dec…

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> a piece of contemporary art often has very little point in itself. The art is in the artist's process (their point of view, intent, history, etc), not the piece.

I personally find no enjoyment in art where I have to have context for it to be "interesting". Either it is or it isn't interesting on it's own merits. I find all art the same though. If it isn't interesting on it's own, then it's not interesting on the whole (for me).

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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> Do you buy music on iTunes? That's like asking HN if they buy Christmas CDs at Tesco. This is a very self-selecting group of people. I know people who buy off of iTunes, who don't use Spotify, who've never heard of Bandcamp, who still listen to the radio… there are people beyond your little bubble. It's a big old world.

I do try to stick with Bandcamp, but a few bands I want just don’t use it. My wife rolls her eyes at me and my iPod

I've had pretty good luck finding bands on 7Digital when they don't have a Bandcamp. I'm sure they aren't perfect, but they seem better than Apple at least.

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Well, let's make a revoltingly fun analogy: say a hamburger restaurant opened in your city, that openly admits it puts (ethically acquired) human meat in some of its products. You don't have to worry about the legality of the venture, it's all 100% compliant with the original persons donating their bodies to feed the world. Now, the hamburgers are extraordinarily good tasting, some say the best in town. The price is…

> You don't have to worry about the legality of the venture, it's all 100% compliant with the original persons donating their bodies to feed the world. Now, the hamburgers are extraordinary good tasting, some say the best in town. The price is also good - they have a great hook up for the main ingredient, after all. Halfway through this paragraph I started hearing it in the Trump cadence. > The source matters, both f…

We know for a fact they don't. We know because they told us they didn't.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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A decade or two from now your children will be dropping thousands of dollars to go to a concert to hear AI generated music from an AI generated artist.

And they'll "go to" the concert at home with their VR headsets

And the parents will scream that they need more healthy hobbies and they should use a real screen instead.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

#347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song…

You can listen to AI-generated music all you want, why does it bother you so that others won't?

Because they need Technojesus to come save them from never having learned to invert a binary tree, so any anti-AI sentiment is a threat to that.

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Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.

I've fallen off it a while ago to be honest, AI generated stuff aside, Spotify has only been recommending me really unknown / obscure artists for ages now of debatable quality.

I suspect it's an issue with too big and diverse of a dataset, listening history going back years and tens of thousands of songs.

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This looks like a great way to launder money. Write some generic AI music, have have your small accounts using stolen giftcards bought with dirty money pump the track and watch it climb the charts as other jump on the band wagon. Et voilà instant layering with no connections. I'm pretty sure this is exactly how all the music I don't like gets into the charts. :P

You saying it like there are no other easy ways to launder money. Every time I walk by a cleaning service or hairdresser in a less dense populated area I wonder if they are involved in money launderinng.

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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post #326

This looks like a great way to launder money. Write some generic AI music, have have your small accounts using stolen giftcards bought with dirty money pump the track and watch it climb the charts as other jump on the band wagon. Et voilà instant layering with no connections. I'm pretty sure this is exactly how all the music I don't like gets into the charts. :P

How are Swedish gangs using music platform Spotify to launder money?: https://www.euronews.com/business/2023/10/03/how-are-swedish...

You are not wrong.

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