And where is Microsoft Flight Attendant, I need a cup of coffee.
How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?
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#342I think it's fair enough that 'the assistant in the GUI/cloud program X, like Clippy++' has the same name for all X.
But it's absolutely bonkers that that's the same name as the IDE auto-complete integration, and the GitHub agentic worker, and the GitHub chat, and the GitHub reviewer.
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This won’t last for long too. Valve with SteamDeck and apparent future release of SteamMachine/SteamOS is preparing users for Linux gaming
either that or AAA games mostly becoming streamed from Clouds like Nvidia now
Google tried that and there's still some blood on the wall
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gaming too I guess still
This won’t last for long too. Valve with SteamDeck and apparent future release of SteamMachine/SteamOS is preparing users for Linux gaming
is there any hope for linux native anticheat? I always felt like this was what was holding it back
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#345Before any of these Copilots, there was Project Aardvark. It was a summer project by Joel Spolsky's company Fog Creek Software in which they created a remote desktop product called Copilot. They made a documentary about it: https://youtu.be/YbrkZ07LKbk?si=LAYznsR6Zd1YdGkb
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#346The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…
This.
Github CoPilot is decent but the rest of the copilot ecosystem is a hot mess. It’s not surprising MSFT is struggling to monetize AI.
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#347It's a corporate practice they find hard to shake, and sadly enough, it seems to work.
The idea is about platform solutions vs. best of breed, and they keep betting on the platform. In big organizations with lengthy and complex contracting procedures, platform solutions will always win.
The actual solution for the economy is Interoperability, if we fight for governments to require it, we can get platform providers that allow best of breed bundles. We will gain open market platforms, where you choose the market platform that works for you with the combination of solutions that work for you with one or just few contracts. Markets that close themselves or fight their vendors will lose both vendors and customers.
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It's massively cheaper. Copilot charges per request, which with some clever prompting, can lead to huge amounts of work being done at fractions of the cost of Claude Code. Millions of tokens for mere pennies. MS must be taking a huge hit somewhere, because I'm probably getting 10-20x my value out of GH relative to CC. I am not locked in to Anthropic, either. I can easily switch between GPT and Gemini models based on…
I'm spending a literal fortune on CC - we also have GH Copilot but the devs imply that CC is better? Will the Github Copilot let us access skills and agent frameworks in CC?
Claude (and most other models) in GitHub Copilot still only have 200k context, with a hefty amount being reserved for some reason. It's 1M at many other providers.
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Have you used the gh copilot cli? What would stand out most to you as gaps right now?
IME is is less capable of performing complex work, more frequently goes down blind alleys and needs correcting, that kind of thing. It's night and day vs CC.
That's probably because the 200k context window means that it'll end up compacting things sooner.
I've just had a chat with Copilot's Opus 4.6 go off the rails after compaction today.
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WSL was a traditional subsystem in the Windows NT tradition, it just never worked properly. WSL2 runs real Linux in a virtual machine.
Actually no, that is what many without Windows background think. WSL 1.0 was based on Drawbridge research project of library OSes, also used to port SQL Server into Linux. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46110904
Microsoft had to warn users that they would corrupt the original WSL subsystem if they touched Linux files using Windows tools:
> DO NOT, under ANY circumstances, access, create, and/or modify Linux files inside of your `%LOCALAPPDATA%` folder using Windows apps, tools, scripts, consoles, etc.
They did overcome that problem eventually, but by then everyone had moved on to WSL2.