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Re: Apple Business

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Post by kube-system »

dangus wrote: post #327
Schiendelman wrote: post #187

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I think you might be very surprised by what you can do with eight gigs of RAM on Apple Silicon. Apple does hardware compression into memory - it performs as well as a 16 GB machine did with an Intel chip.

I don't know where this myth has come from that macOS magically uses less RAM even though you are using the same applications as everyone else. The Just Josh Tech review of the MacBook Neo demonstrated that the Neo cannot do a fractional resolution playback of a very simple Adobe Premiere project. We are not even talking about doing any editing work, simply playing back the project in the timeline. The ~$500 Acer loa…

> I don't know where this myth has come from that macOS magically uses less RAM even though you are using the same applications as everyone else.

Well, you're certainly not running the same code on both systems. Some applications absolutely use less RAM on MacOS... some use less on Windows.

Some of this is due to the various builds of the software itself, some of it is due to architectural differences in memory management, CPU instructions, differing memory access capabilities, etc.

8GB is tight for power users, definitely. But it is certainly very usable for on a Mac for the average person.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

df3dsfs wrote: post #329
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #37

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Vision Pro failed Apple fails at every novel thing they try and crushes it at every thing they copy

Does anyone take this bozo seriously? He writes like.... the worst comments. I genuinely hope he gets much needed help. He seems like a bitter sad man.

+1

I appreciate that you made a whole ass new account just for this comment

Cheers to that

Re: Apple Business

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Post by kube-system »

dangus wrote: post #111
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

Serviceable != upgradable or long-lasting. So many people are going to get burned by the hypnotism of these Neos. They're going to be gateways into being traded in within 2-3 years to get something with more RAM and storage when their owners find out how much they struggle with basic tasks due to insufficient RAM and storage. If you actually go on Best Buy or Micro Center websites and look at street prices you'll rea…

My last Windows laptop was a 2-in-1 Yoga. It was the reason I switched to Macs.

Sure, the specs were good... on paper. But all of the little firmware bugs really destroyed the experience. Mine had both throttling and display output issues, which really suck for a development machine. Also Windows kind of sucks in general these days -- and when I installed Linux on the thing, then I got the classic lackluster power management issue where it would slowly discharge in my backpack. So there goes the battery life advantages.

Apple benefits from great vertical integration so their damn firmware usually works, and if there are issues, they tend to fix them, where as Lenovo and most PC integrators seem to be happy just abandoning products from last quarter and releasing fifteen new models instead. And it's posix and doesn't put ads in my start menu, right out of the box.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by qmr »

dangus wrote: post #99
999900000999 wrote: post #33

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*499$ with an EDU discount which definitely means they have margin for business deals. Revenge of the Mac. Theirs simply no reason for any normal person to buy anything else. The year of Linux is deferred yet again.

I keep shouting from the rooftops the fact that the Neo is really not that disruptive or even necessarily that good of a deal. Like, have any of you actually looked at street prices at Micro Center or Best Buy recently? In the price range of the higher model Neo you can get a Yoga 7 with an OLED convertible touch screen, 1TB storage, 16GB of RAM, along with a processor with better multicore and iGPU performance (Ryze…

... the Yoga doesn't run MacOS though.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by slashdave »

genthree wrote: post #72
selectively wrote: post #22

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Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close. After that, old copies of MSOffice. Next-best would be a hodgepodge of the lighter options on Linux and such. Gnumeric, Abiword, that sort of thing. Not great, but at least they're light on resources and easy to use. Distantly after that, LibreOffice. Then, modern MSOffice in last place. The only reason I'd count any of them as "worse" than moder…

You can drag a pdf into Keynote, and get a vector quality image. This feature is great for science when a plot is made elsewhere (R or matplotlib). Or you can even drag in an SVG, even from something you find in a browser. Drag, drop.

Why in heaven's name is it nearly impossible to do the same with Powerpoint is a mystery. You still have to paste a bit image.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by Shank »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #26

So do enterprises still need Jamf [1]? For context, Jamf is one of the most common MDM tools for organizations. [1]: https://www.jamf.com/

I would say that most SMBs don't need Jamf because they provide overlapping features. The most important thing you want is remote erasure of company data (for compliance purposes), app assignment, and ensuring your devices have screen lock. This basically makes the most important parts of MDM for Apple devices totally free.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by stephenr »

legitster wrote: post #254

This announcement is pretty sad. If you're wondering why Apple is an IT department nightmare, this announcement is more of a confession. Today your corporate MacBook can have ... preinstalled software! And user groups (for the Apple store and iCloud). Wait, there's more! > In addition, customers can now set up business email, calendar, and directory services with their own domain name for seamless and elevated commun…

It's an announcement that they're providing first party integrated first party services for something that until now has largely relied on third party solutions.

Not knowing about the exiting solutions to provision/manage Macs is one thing. Not knowing about them and claiming they're inferior because of what you didn't know is just bizarre.

I don't know what it is about the type of people who end up doing pc support, but an irrational dislike of Macs seems to be systemic. I worked in an IT department when Novell was still a thing, an a senior guy with years of Unix experience would make jokes about "toy operating system" while also alternating between screaming at and practically fellating windows XP.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by ukuina »

ezfe wrote: post #332
matt_daemon wrote: post #269

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Apple's cloud software has been buggy as hell for a long time, at least for me. I'm in a family iCloud group with my parents... one day I just woke up and had all my podcasts and music replaced with my Mum's :/ Would not want this anywhere near a "business" experience

I'm just gonna go ahead and say that I'm not sure what happened there but either you or your mom signed in with your account on the other device. I have a lot of technical understanding with how CloudKit works and there's not a pathway for what you're describing to come out of a family group.

Hence, "buggy".
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