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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

hormuz.pythonic.ninja

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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I don't know what to tell you. You're restating the paradox of tolerance. You should probably come to some philosophical resolution regarding that before you keep digging.

What I have said has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance. I am firmly on the side of not tolerating the intolerant, but stating that, "not tolerating" does not extend to "starting wars in an attempt at world conquest to rid the world of the intolerant".

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Buddy you've got like 10 top-level comments on this thread are you doing okay

Better than ever! Getting some awareness raised. This whole post should be flagged, and people need to quit crapping on the people of Iran by trying to make this a Trump thing.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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They are both very bad guys.

"good people on both sides"

The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”.

So what exactly is the problem with saying both bombing school children and machine gunning protestors is bad? Be specific.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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I’m trying to write a nuanced response but frankly it’s difficult. If they want freedom they should take it. The same way Ukraine is standing up to their bully and the same way countless other revolutionaries stood up.

Behind the scenes help is perfectly ok. The colonists didn’t form America entirely on their own.

I think where so many have issue with this war is that a couple of old men decided they would try to overthrow an incredibly dug in regime with a little air power. It’s like Iraq and Afghanistan all over again. The results are wildly predictable.

The regime is entrenched and waiting it out while causing havoc with semi-guerilla tactics of bullying the Straits and attacking neighbors.

Change comes from within. Not from cruise missiles.

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Liberal? Satire about this "totally-not-a-war" that's widely unpopular among the commoners on both sides of the aisle in the US? Spearheaded by a person who promised his base there would be no new wars on his watch. Isolationism and noninterference was a pretty big selling point to a lot of them as I recall.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Turns out consistency is overrated. We talk as if it's a bare minimum, but there isn't actually any penalty for violating it. We've still got some kind of karmic notion that inconsistency is bad for you in the long run. Maybe it is, but that run keeps getting longer and longer.

Having contact with reality is quite important when critical moments arise. Fantasy can proper you quite high, but there is a breaking point where it can't carry the day. Trump & Co are both post-truth and detached for reality. I am a bit scared for your country when you get a post-truth populist that is NOT detached from reality. If you can't deal with a buffoon like Trump, how will you be able to deal with someone…

It's a good question. His supporters like the buffoonery. It allows them to see what they want to in his actions. It's remarkable that he has the full-throated support of the theocrats while being blatantly an atheist. And conversely he has surrounded himself with people who clearly hate Christianity, but gloss over his pandering to the religious right.

That wouldn't be possible if he were any smarter. Nor is he a Boris Johnson type character, playing the clown while being quite well educated in private.

The right wing coalition will survive and thrive even without him. But it's hard to predict just how, because it will have to adapt.

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