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Post by leptons »

p2detar wrote: post #140
ThalesX wrote: post #135

I recently activated my account on there and went to the forum for my country. It was already taken over by moderators. Then I looked at the mod and he took all real estate that is already available on Reddit that is related to said country. So in a way, he was probably the first account on there and became god-king for eternity for the subreddits related to the country. I had no idea who he was, what he stood for, w…

The absolutely broken moderator system of Reddit made me leave it forever after being a regular user for more than a decade. The “god-king” thing simply doesn’t work.

Same here. The power-tripping of mods ruins reddit. Most don't care about the community as much as they care about exercising their absolute power over users.

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Post by beachy »

happyopossum wrote: post #254
mschuster91 wrote: post #218

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You need to ditch and replace all your devices and acquire a new phone number. I'm serious. Virtually all large websites these days employ a lot of fingerprinting and persistence technologies. And yes, ditch them. Even well over a decade ago, Wikipedia of all places already employed IP address matching to link sockpuppet accounts. You must be extremely careful of never using any device that was associated with your o…

> and acquire a new phone number > Wikipedia of all places already employed IP address matching to link sockpuppet accounts That’s… well, that’s just not how tcp/ip works. Your phone number has nothing to do with your device IP…

It does when your phone number is used for 2fa in a session running on tcp/ip

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by whamlastxmas »

gagik_co wrote: post #57
hazelnut wrote: post #55

Is Kevin Rose known to know how to address bot problems? I think it's a little absurd to address a bot problem with bringing back the original founder. I believe he was great at community building and functionality, but bot prevention is a different beast. The post mentioned that they also worked with third parties which I believe should have more bot prevention experience than Kevin. To be fair, I don't know Kevin R…

Is Reddit fighting the bot problem? They introduced a feature to hide post history which makes it hard to know whether you’re interacting with a spammy bot account. If anything they’re embracing it.

I don't think this is helpful to bots tbh. For over a decade every time I come across a clear bot account their comment history seems very human. I assume they're either buying real accounts for one-off astroturfing hit and runs in combination with deleting older astroturfing comments after the submission stops getting traffic to hide their footprints. Or more likely there's a giant ring of bots that submit innocent things and then comment preplanned innocent things in a giant bot circle and then make pointed comments on r/politics or whatever after establishing an innocent baseline. This is the obvious approach I'd take if it were me.

I'd also be really surprised if there wasn't coordination with Reddit employees/execs themselves for big advertisers.

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Post by himata4113 »

0dayz wrote: post #328
qingcharles wrote: post #286

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The karma points you get on HN are worthless, which I think is a bonus. They don't buy you anything. On Reddit, for instance, many parts of the site are walled off until you have "farmed" enough karma to participate.

Not exactly true. You get the right to down vote and if I promote my totally not a scam product on HN, people will check my user account and see: on wow over 9000 karma? Gotta be trust worthy, when in truth it's just been karma farming. HN does limit some of it, but it's not a panacea.

I don't know, never found much value in karma. I recreate an account at least once a year for no particular reason and it roughly takes me a week to get enough karma to do what is important (flagging posts).

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by leptons »

dijit wrote: post #174
guerrilla wrote: post #143

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Yes. Subforums should elect mods democratically.

sadly, a nice idea that is painfully naive with how computers are used in reality. One need only remember how easy it was to take over IRC channels with a few hundred bots to see the endgame of this rationale… it cannot be patched out, it’s inherent to the internet. That which would make a vote valid; can (and will) be gamed.

It could work depending on how it is set up. Maybe only accounts with n-number of years get 1 single vote, and maybe don't let any random 2-day old account get a vote.

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Post by [deleted] »

oscaracso wrote: post #329
iamdamian wrote: post #260

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> It behooves you to not write like that if you don’t want people dehumanizing you. I have to strongly disagree with you on this. It behooves us (as a species) not to degrade our own manner of speaking and writing simply because of a (possibly temporary) technical anomaly. In my view, it would be really, really sad to lose expressive punctuation or ways of constructing sentences simply because they're overused by AI.…

Your prose is poor so it is no wonder. Half the words you use are superfluous, some are nonsensical, and you beg the question.

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Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by iamdamian »

oscaracso wrote: post #329
iamdamian wrote: post #260

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> It behooves you to not write like that if you don’t want people dehumanizing you. I have to strongly disagree with you on this. It behooves us (as a species) not to degrade our own manner of speaking and writing simply because of a (possibly temporary) technical anomaly. In my view, it would be really, really sad to lose expressive punctuation or ways of constructing sentences simply because they're overused by AI.…

Your prose is poor so it is no wonder. Half the words you use are superfluous, some are nonsensical, and you beg the question.

Please consider reading the Hacker News community guidelines before you post again: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by pixl97 »

nichos wrote: post #305
koolala wrote: post #301

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I don't think the problem was spam content it was hate content. Hate can be organic

Who decides what "hate" is though? Does it switch with every administration? Free speech, including "hate speech" should be allowed, as long as it doesn't violate the law (calls to violence, etc)

The particular problem is said speech quite often leads to calls of violence. And when a few people get banned for that you get dog whistles, sentences that are encoded calls for violence. Eventually the new slang is recognized for being violent and then it looks like the site has allowed calls of violence for months.

A short version of this is, if you let a nazi come to your bar, you have a nazi bar.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by jzig »

> None of it was enough. When you can't trust that the votes, the comments, and the engagement you're seeing are real, you've lost the foundation a community platform is built on.

What is HN doing differently then?

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