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Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by fulafel »

numpad0 wrote: post #206
ActorNightly wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to Windows sure. Compared to linux, its incredibly bloated.

Objectively untrue. Classic MacOS with GUI could be run under 2MB.

Linux in 896 kB: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~brians/comp/linux-lite.html

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by nelsonic »

auggierose wrote: post #222
roody15 wrote: post #131

MacBook Neo is going to sell like crazy. In the education market, educators, students, aides... nothing close at this price point. With memory and SSD prices so high I don't see how Dell, Asus and others are going to be able to compete. Unless the build quality is significantly worse than a M1 macbook air not sure budget PC makers will be able to compete.

I don't know. Both of my macs are over 7 years old, and have at least 32GB of RAM. Certainly would not buy an 8GB one now.

I daily-drive a base level MacBook Air M1 with 8GB RAM for writing docs and some light coding in VIM/VSCode. Never had any issues.

When I need more I offload tasks to a remote VM (usually AWS/GCP). I can easily afford a top spec Mac but chose this because I want to have a “entry level” device that I don’t mind my kids breaking or getting stolen at public co-working space.

Plenty of people will get MacBook Neo and never hit its limitations. Most students/educators and many professionals just use the web all day and never need much RAM.

Having said all that, Apple could easily have made it 16GB cleaned up the market place and nobody would be talking about Neo being under spec’d. But Tim Cook has to be a Tim Cook and squeeze every last penny of profit. ;-)

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by coldtea »

serf wrote: post #326
coldtea wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have 32GB Macs, and you had them 7 years ago already, you're not even remotely close to the target market for it. Parent said "In the education market, educators, students, aides... nothing close at this price point". That has zero overlap with the "felt the need for 32GB 7 years ago" not-exactly-crowd.

>If you have 32GB Macs, and you had them 7 years ago already, you're not even remotely close to the target market for it. that market is already saturated with a zillion decent-spec chromebook style machines. The only reason the Neo market is even slightly different is to cater to crowds that want the apple offerings for OS and fashion/reputation. The market we're talking about has no real reason to care what kind of…

>that market is already saturated with a zillion decent-spec chromebook style machines.

Yeah, come back in a year when we have sales numbers for the Neo and tell me how saturated it is.

>The only reason the Neo market is even slightly different is to cater to crowds that want the apple offerings for OS and fashion/reputation.

No, the real main reason is that the "zillion decent-spec chromebook style machines" are half-arsed and/or less powered and with worse build quality depending on the model. The "OS and fashion/reputation" are a bonus.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by pfortuny »

serf wrote: post #326
coldtea wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have 32GB Macs, and you had them 7 years ago already, you're not even remotely close to the target market for it. Parent said "In the education market, educators, students, aides... nothing close at this price point". That has zero overlap with the "felt the need for 32GB 7 years ago" not-exactly-crowd.

>If you have 32GB Macs, and you had them 7 years ago already, you're not even remotely close to the target market for it. that market is already saturated with a zillion decent-spec chromebook style machines. The only reason the Neo market is even slightly different is to cater to crowds that want the apple offerings for OS and fashion/reputation. The market we're talking about has no real reason to care what kind of…

That market has new customers every year. Like the one for bicycles, L-sized clothes, etc.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by qalmakka »

robmccoll wrote: post #168

I sometimes run Xubuntu on my phone via termux and proot. The hardware we carry around in our pockets is ridiculously capable.

There's a big difference between running native ARM software on ARM and emulating x86 to run Windows. If this Mac was x86, it could have probably run Windows much faster thanks to virtualization
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