Is this the same provider that linkedin uses? I was never able to pass this succefully.
Do you resemble a Moldovan Finance Minister?
I am not sure since I don't know how the Moldovan Finance Minister looks.
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Indeed. Empathy and the levels of wealth accumulation in scope are incompatible imho. They are the paperclip maximizers we were warned about.
Where do you guys come up with these ideas? Simply having a lot of money makes someone evil? Why? They are obviously all quite competitive in business but the philanthropy they've done is pretty crazy. Gates for example is giving away hundreds of billions of dollars. What does it even matter if he's compassionate or not if he's doing that?
In general (not always, but it is mostly true) philantropy from billionaires and very profitable companies tend to be overshadowed by how much they profit from a system biased toward enriching them (see: The divide by Jason Hickel). A small metaphor to illustrate: are you a philantropist if you film yourself giving away 100$ to homeless people but make tens of thousands from posting the video?
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#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find your surefooted statements about what hacker news is, will become, or ever was to be worth little seeing as you have only just become a part of this community. Might I recommend leaving the snark at home and approaching your interactions here with good faith instead of acting like you're the authoritative arbiter of community interactions? Welcome to Hacker News.
> Might I recommend leaving the snark at home and approaching your interactions here with good faith the highest irony, coming from someone who literally cross-examined me and then insulted me rather than engage with my comments at all! can you seriously not see how ridiculous that is? somehow i am the one who needs to approach interactions in good faith? lmao. no. you dont get good faith from me. if you want good fa…
Your original post was written as if you were a long time community member here and had an investment in how the community works and yet were a brand new green account. Something you probably don't know if you haven't spent enough time here is that it is indeed quite common to use a green alt to post comments that you don't want associated with your main profile. It is so common and allowable in fact that most users doing so just call them throwawayXYZ, as in that exact pattern. So I'm used to seeing this.
But it didn't make sense why you would do that for this particular post, especially while seeming to assert some kind of authority and familiarity with the cultural norms of the HN community. So I asked you about it, not aiming to negate or reduce your point but rather to learn about why you would use an alt account.
Instead of simply replying that you were in fact new and this was not an alt, rather that you were a long time lurker and a first time poster, you jumped down my throat and the throats of everyone else involved in this thread, being toxic and abrasive in every way possible. Both of my posts here which you think are at odds with each other are in service of encouraging you to check yourself, because you are being unreasonable; not meant as an insult demanding you to clap back. "You must be great at parties" should prompt you to step back and think of what passers by would think of your behavior and demeanor, because I'm giving you a social hint that a lot of people will find that behavior off putting. That statement is not a prompt for you to grow more vitriolic and upset, and continue the behavior I'm trying to point out is not going to serve you well in a social space like this.
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> Might I recommend leaving the snark at home and approaching your interactions here with good faith the highest irony, coming from someone who literally cross-examined me and then insulted me rather than engage with my comments at all! can you seriously not see how ridiculous that is? somehow i am the one who needs to approach interactions in good faith? lmao. no. you dont get good faith from me. if you want good fa…
Your original post was written as if you were a long time community member here and had an investment in how the community works and yet were a brand new green account. Something you probably don't know if you haven't spent enough time here is that it is indeed quite common to use a green alt to post comments that you don't want associated with your main profile. It is so common and allowable in fact that most users…
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#346Even if I disregard all the shady connections that are obviously total coincidences, it still wouldnt feel better they worked together at all. You should only partner with a company if you are 100% certain it fits.
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I read it and, maybe it’s because I’ve spent too much time in fintech, I don’t share most of the concerns. The differences in proclaimed data retention periods is concerning though. The rest is par for the course for KYC/AML.
Tell me more before I doom about this too much.
Any time you interact with the financial services industry in a meaningful way, they are doing almost exactly all of these checks on you. It is mandated by law, and they're overseen by FINTRAC in Canada and FinCEN in US.
When you applied for a bank account for your freelancing business (or startup idea), some people googled you, looked for PEPs (politically exposed persons) in your family, stored photos of your IDs and probably even printed them off, and sent everything in a nice package to some "risk" department. Who knows how that department is handling your data.
The only difference is that Persona is trying to put a front-end on it and selling the process as a SaaS. Look up "KYC/KYB saas" and you'll find hundreds of businesses doing this (including, of course, Persona).
edit: I want to emphasize that this isn't restricted to just business banking. Poor wording on my part. Lots of industries are legally mandated to conduct KYC/IDV. Notaries do it in home sales, your stock brokerage is doing it, employers in regulated industries do it to everyone on payroll. The list is very long. Unfortunately...
The government should take on responsibility for KYC imo, instead of letting 100 vendors come up with their own solutions. But that would probably have some nasty externalities.
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> Where do you guys come up with these ideas? By thinking.
Thinking, experiencing the world, knowing that throughout our entire history of a species that tales of "excess greed" were also cautionary tales on how greed ruins society throughout the entire world.
Excess greed is a different thing than excess wealth. Bill gates is giving away all of that wealth - is that a greedy action?
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Where do you guys come up with these ideas? Simply having a lot of money makes someone evil? Why? They are obviously all quite competitive in business but the philanthropy they've done is pretty crazy. Gates for example is giving away hundreds of billions of dollars. What does it even matter if he's compassionate or not if he's doing that?
If you gave away as much money proportionately, you'd have about 75 fewer dollars in your pocket. Tell me again how generous billionaires are.
Gates has pledged 200 billion - 99 pct of his wealth - and has already given 60 billion (close to half of it). Is that generous or not?