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Post by windexh8er »

xvector wrote: post #236
maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

Hey, as a security engineer in AI, I get where you're coming from. But one thing to remember - our job is to figure out how to enable these amazing usecases while keeping the blast radius as low as possible. Yes, OpenClaw ignores all security norms, but it's our job to figure out an architecture in which agents like these can have the autonomy they need to act, without harming the business too much. So I would disagr…

Security is always a cost center. We've seen multiple iterations of changes already impact security in the same ways over the last 20+ years. Nothing is different here and the outcomes will be the same: just good enough but always a step behind. The one thing that is a new lever to pull here is time, people need far less of it to make disastrous mistakes. But, ultimately, the game hasn't changed and security budgets will continue to be funneled to off the shelf products that barely work and the remainder of that budget will continue to go to the overworked and underpaid. Nothing really changes.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by mjr00 »

TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worried about being directly liable for all the harms OpenClaw can do.

This is a great take and hasn't been spoken about nearly enough in this comment section. Spending a few million to buy out Openclaw('s creator), which is by far the most notable product made by Codex in a world where most developer mindshare is currently with Claude, is nothing for a marketing/PR stunt.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by nelsonfigueroa »

> "What I want is to change the world".

I don't know if you'll achieve that at OpenAI or if it'll even be a good change for the world, but I genuinely wish you the best. Regardless of the news around OpenAI I still think it's great that a personal project got you a position at a company like that.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by jdgoesmarching »

ramathornn wrote: post #118

Congrats to Peter! Can any OpenClaw power users explain what value the software has provided to them over using Claude code with MCP? I really don’t understand the value of an agent running 24/7, like is it out there working and earning a wage? Whats the real value here outside of buzzwords like an ai personal assistant that can do everything?

Not being tied to Anthropic’s models and ecosystems, having more control over the agent, interacting with it from you messaging app of choice.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by andrewchambers »

cowsandmilk wrote: post #338
andrewchambers wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it was obvious, yet nobody seemed to have released a version people could actually easily use. The feature set is pretty simple: - Agents that can write their own tools. - Agents that can write their own skills. - Agents that can chat via standard chat apps. - Agents that can install and use cli software. - Agents that can have a bit of state on disk.

> nobody seemed to have released a version people could actually easily use Yet I’ve known many people who have said it is difficult to use; this was a 0.01-0.1% adoption tool. There is still a huge ease of use gap to cross to make it adopted in 10-50% of computer users.

Yeah - people are hungry for it. They tolerate the kind of crappy docs and difficulties.

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Post by [deleted] »

rukuu001 wrote: post #132
jacquesm wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AMEX, Capital One and Apple are not even close to the top of the list of companies that I would trust with my digital data.

Never mind the list of companies - I'd be very curious to know what the 'trust signals' are that would help you trust a company?

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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by mcapodici »

bhadass wrote: post #287
EastSmith wrote: post #6

With OpenClaw we are seeing how the app layer becomes as important as the model layer. You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw.

openclaw is just one of many now, there are new ones weekly.

Plus you can get the model to write you a bespoke one that suits your needs.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by AlexCoventry »

mjr00 wrote: post #342
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worried about being directly liable for all the harms OpenClaw can do. This is a great t…

He's also a great booster of Codex. Says he greatly prefers it to Claude. So his role might turn out to be evanglism.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Aurornis »

TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> This buy out for something vibe coded

I think all of these comments about acquisitions or buy outs aren’t reading the blog post carefully: The post isn’t saying OpenClaw was acquired. It’s saying that Pete is joining OpenAI.

There are two sentences at the top that sum it up:

> I’m joining OpenAI to work on bringing agents to everyone. OpenClaw will move to a foundation and stay open and independent.

OpenClaw was not a good candidate to become a business because its fan base was interested in running their own thing. It’s a niche product.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by verdverm »

elxr wrote: post #235
verdverm wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same for OpenClaw, it will be commodity soon if you don't think it is already

It's definitely not right now. What else has the feature list and docs even resembling it?

OpenClaw has mediocre docs, from my perspective on some average over many years using 100s of open source projects.

I think Anthropic's docs are better. Best to keep sampling from the buffet than to pick a main course yet, imo.

There's also a ton of real experiences being conveyed on social that never make it to docs. I've gotten as much value and insights from those as any documentation site.

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