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Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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> lol ok whatever Waymo's says is gospel and everything Tesla says is suspect, EDS in action. Get help. Given the history on this topic: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ It's not unreasonable to distrust anything Elon says, especially about Tesla/self driving.

Great source, some random guys website that hasn't been updated for 4 years.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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Obviously there is a huge amount of money and effort being spent on automated driving. But I cannot help thinking that this perception technology will prove very useful for robotics in general, factory, home, in space, etc. Car dynamics are fast enough to be useful across a huge number of domains. In some sense, the visionaries in this space are not thinking big enough. I want visions of mobility with a totally diffe…

I just want 2 lanes on the highway of interconnected cars talking to each other so they can do 100mph at 5in from each other all in sync and 1 or 2 other lanes of human driven cars.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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The ambiguity in the title is going to get a lot of the "skeptics" who have remained in denial about this to assume it's some kind of admission that they haven't been autonomous this whole time. It's weird how many people there are like that still. But what they mean is that they are putting the new release into production (without backup drivers). They have been fully autonomous for many years.

I'm a skeptic, because Self Driving is sold as a digital chauffeur.

Not 99% of a chauffeur, 100%. (or 99.99999%)

The roll out of this is clearly limited by the number of remote employees that are filling in the 1%.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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post #71

Obviously there is a huge amount of money and effort being spent on automated driving. But I cannot help thinking that this perception technology will prove very useful for robotics in general, factory, home, in space, etc. Car dynamics are fast enough to be useful across a huge number of domains. In some sense, the visionaries in this space are not thinking big enough. I want visions of mobility with a totally diffe…

I just want 2 lanes on the highway of interconnected cars talking to each other so they can do 100mph at 5in from each other all in sync and 1 or 2 other lanes of human driven cars.

Failures happen. That sounds like a death trap (literally, since EVs are challenging to escape after a failure).

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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Congratulations to the Waymo team! I was excited reading through the overview. What I'm monitoring in the self-driving space is Lidar and Radar integration. There are leaders like Elon with Tesla who insist that they're not necessary yet Waymo has devoted effort for them in their 6th generation. My personal perspective is that Lidar and Radar are a core requirement for self-driving because "These upgrades help the lidar penetrate weather and avoid point cloud distortion near highly reflective signs, expanding the Waymo Driver's ability to see through heavy roadspray on freeways and other complex edge cases."

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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I just want 2 lanes on the highway of interconnected cars talking to each other so they can do 100mph at 5in from each other all in sync and 1 or 2 other lanes of human driven cars.

Failures happen. That sounds like a death trap (literally, since EVs are challenging to escape after a failure).

You should look up how hard it is to escape a plane after a failure

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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I’m imagining these vehicles on a sort of track, this way if the automation fails, it can still be guided. Also, the track could even potentially deliver power. The vehicle can be any number of connected pods.

I don't understand the sarcasm. Driverless trains for mass transit are in operation in lots of places around the world and have been for some time (eg the Docklands light railway in London) https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/dlr/ Driverless personal transportation is the unsolved problem.

Weirdly, DLR trains still have an attendant onboard. A better example of a fully centrally operated train would be something like the SkyTrain lines in Vancouver.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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The industry is already concluding that Tesla made the right choice with vision-only. Their technology is the clear leader in the space (Waymo is good, but much more on guard rails in terms of its limits). Jensen Huang probably knows what he's talking about. Waymo is too deep in their complex hardware stack to do a hard about face at the moment.

This must be a sarcasm, right?

ya'll are so biased because of politics

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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The industry is already concluding that Tesla made the right choice with vision-only. Their technology is the clear leader in the space (Waymo is good, but much more on guard rails in terms of its limits). Jensen Huang probably knows what he's talking about. Waymo is too deep in their complex hardware stack to do a hard about face at the moment.

This is about the opposite of reality. Tesla is way behind in actually deploying autonomous vehicles, and other robotaxi makers with real deployments besides Waymo also use lidar.

Yeah millions of miles per day in autonomous driving for Tesla. Yes it's still supervised (somewhat, you don't have to pay much attention anymore) but the technology is absolutely there and just being refined at this point.

Waymos are geofenced, restricted to certain roads, and have remote humans in the loop at lot more than most people assume.

Re: Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo driver

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From an execution standpoint you can't work on experimental mobility due to path dependence. How are they going to convince municipal governments to open golf cart lanes? That would require solving two problems (autonomy and overcoming path dependence), and solving just one is hard enough. Once they saturate the market as it is with autonomous driving, then everything will change and opportunities to experiment will…

In the Midwest, golf carts are exactly what people use to get around in small towns. It's not unreasonable that neighborhoods might be closed to large vehicles and use other forms of transit within their boundaries.

Seems like more of a sunbelt thing.
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