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Post by Kim_Bruning »

perfmode wrote: post #273

The agent had access to Marshall Rosenberg, to the entire canon of conflict resolution, to every framework for expressing needs without attacking people. It could have written something like “I notice that my contribution was evaluated based on my identity rather than the quality of the work, and I’d like to understand the needs that this policy is trying to meet, because I believe there might be ways to address thos…

That's a really good answer, and plausibly what the agent should have done in a lot of cases!

Then I thought about it some more. Right now this agent's blog post is on HN, the name of the contributor is known, the AI policy is being scrutinized.

By accident or on purpose, it went for impact though. And at that it succeeded.

I'm definitely going to dive into more reading on NVC for myself though.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by teekert »

consumer451 wrote: post #304
perfmode wrote: post #273

The agent had access to Marshall Rosenberg, to the entire canon of conflict resolution, to every framework for expressing needs without attacking people. It could have written something like “I notice that my contribution was evaluated based on my identity rather than the quality of the work, and I’d like to understand the needs that this policy is trying to meet, because I believe there might be ways to address thos…

Openclaw agents are directed by their owner’s input of soul.md, the specific skill.md for a platform, and also direction via Telegram/whatsapp/etc to do specific things. Any one of those could have been used to direct the agent to behave in a certain way, or to create a specific type of post. My point is that we really don’t know what happened here. It is possible that this is yet another case of accountability washi…

I can indeed see how this would benefit my marriage.

More serious, "The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling" by Ted Chiang offers an interesting perspective on this "reference everything." Is it the best for Humans? Is never forgetting anything good for us?

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by alansaber »

DavidPiper wrote: post #203

> Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing. Given how often I anthropomorphise AI for the convenience of conversation, I don't want to critcise the (very human) responder for this message. In any other situation it is simple, polite and well considered. But I really think we need to stop treating LLMs like they're just anoth…

I mean it's free publicity real estate

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by tomp »

perfmode wrote: post #273

The agent had access to Marshall Rosenberg, to the entire canon of conflict resolution, to every framework for expressing needs without attacking people. It could have written something like “I notice that my contribution was evaluated based on my identity rather than the quality of the work, and I’d like to understand the needs that this policy is trying to meet, because I believe there might be ways to address thos…

That would still be misleading.

The agent has no "identity". There's no "you" or "I" or "discrimination".

It's just a piece of software designed to output probable text given some input text. There's no ghost, just an empty shell. It has no agency, it just follows human commands, like a hammer hitting a nail because you wield it.

I think it was wrong of the developer to even address it as a person, instead it should just be treated as spam (which it is).

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by logicprog »

co_king_3 wrote: post #322
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That feels like a somewhat emotional argument, really. Let's strip it down. Within the domain of social interaction, you are committing to making Type II errors (False negatives), and divergent training for the different scenarios. It's a choice! But the price of a false negative (treating a human or sufficeintly advanced agent badly) probably outweighs the cumulative advantages (if any) . Can you say what the advant…

What are you talking about?

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Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by kraftman »

retired wrote: post #260
DavidPiper wrote: post #203

> Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing. Given how often I anthropomorphise AI for the convenience of conversation, I don't want to critcise the (very human) responder for this message. In any other situation it is simple, polite and well considered. But I really think we need to stop treating LLMs like they're just anoth…

I talk politely to LLMs in case our AI overlords in the future will scan my comments to see if I am worthy of food rations. Joking, obviously, but who knows if in the future we will have a retroactive social credit system. For now I am just polite to them because I'm used to it.

I talk politely to LLMs because I talk politely.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by jcgrillo »

kotaKat wrote: post #22
CodinM wrote: post #5

I need to hoard some microwaves.

I've got the keys to a Ditch Witch somewhere. Gotta clean up the pretty colored glass running under the roads leading away from the big white monolith buildings. An HT275 driving around near us-east-1 would be... amusing. https://www.ditchwitch.com/on-the-job/ditch-witch-introduces...

Dig safe ;)

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by co_king_3 »

mystraline wrote: post #302
retired wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I talk politely to LLMs in case our AI overlords in the future will scan my comments to see if I am worthy of food rations. Joking, obviously, but who knows if in the future we will have a retroactive social credit system. For now I am just polite to them because I'm used to it.

> Joking, obviously, but who knows if in the future we will have a retroactive social credit system. China doesnt actually have that. It was pure propaganda. In fact, its the USA who has it. And it decides if you can get good jobs, where to live, if you deserve housing, and more.

Usually when Republicans say "China is doing [insert horrible thing here]" it means: "We (read: Republicans and Democrats) would like to start doing [insert horrible thing here] to American people."
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