Why not use LLMs to maintain Heroku?
An Update on Heroku
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#342my heroku app has been crashing since 2 days with the link to amazon rds db. is this part of it ?
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I worked with some of the folks from there, and honestly you make it sounds like tech debt is inevitable consequence haunting projects from year one. I disagree, I think the folks just did a sloppy job of "let's bungee strap it all together" for speed, instead of more serious planning and architecturing. They self-inflicted the tech debt on them and got drowned in the debt interest super fast.
Sure, but that bungee strapped slop got them pretty damn far
My point is that they would have gotten much farther. I'm not talking about architecture astronautics, just a little more thinking-ahead.
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I'm just going to chime in here and say thank you, there still really isn't in my mind a comparable offering to heroku's git push and go straight to a reasonable production I honestly find it a bit nuts, there's offerings that come close, but using them I still get the impression that they've just not put in the time really refining that user interface, so I just wanted to say thank you for the work you and the GP di…
I agree with everything you said, and can only thank the founders for their tremendous insight and willingness to push the limits. The shear number of engineering practices we take for granted today because of something like Heroku boggles my mind. I am forever grateful for the opportunity to work there and make it an effort to pass on what I learned to others.
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This! It absolutely boggles my mind that nothing else exists to fill this spot. Fly and others offer varying degrees of easier-than-AWS hosting, but nobody offers true PaaS like Heroku, IMHO.
I find render.com basically as good as Heroku and certainly much better than fly.io's unpredictable pricing
In what way is Fly's pricing unpredictable ?
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vercel goes a step further, and (when configured this way) allocates a new hostname (eg feature-branch-add-thingg.app.vercel.example.com) for new branches, to make testing even easier.
But their offering is "frontend oriented", what you describe doesn't work for django / laravel / rails / etc, no ?
Have a look at Scalingo, it's a good mix of simplicity and maturity.
https://scalingo.com/blog/heroku-alternative-europe-scalingo...
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#348I remember reading The Twelve-Factor App [1] from the Heroku folks back in the day, and was blown away by how well they understood the problem. Not only that but they had great taste.
I moved things to Render a while back, and then to my own Hetzner server (I built kind of an open source Vercel clone for that reason [2]).
I'm not quite sure any of these platforms are going to be relevant 5 years from now when you can summon your own DevOps AI agent. At the very least it's going to be incredibly difficult to justify the premium on top of AWS.
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