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I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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At what point did the old Apple cross the threshold to "modern" Apple? I agree with your point I just find the distinction hard to pinpoint. It's like the (incorrect) analogy of the boiled frog, I know it's a cliché but I really feel things started downhill in overall quality and wow factor with the advent of Tim Cook. SJ had failures like Ping and MobileMe, but they seemed to pick up on the criticism back then and e…

> At what point did the old Apple cross the threshold to "modern" Apple? This hardly an original sentiment, but when Steve Jobs died. Jobs was not perfect, but he believed they were there to make great products, had good taste with obsessive attention to detail, and was pretty much omnipotent in the company. I'm sure there are people with many of these traits in Apple, but not all of them together. Their first new ha…

To be fair, while Jobs was at the helm apple was a fraction of it's market cap and iPhone adoption was still rapidly rising around the globe.

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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post #173

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At what point did the old Apple cross the threshold to "modern" Apple? I agree with your point I just find the distinction hard to pinpoint. It's like the (incorrect) analogy of the boiled frog, I know it's a cliché but I really feel things started downhill in overall quality and wow factor with the advent of Tim Cook. SJ had failures like Ping and MobileMe, but they seemed to pick up on the criticism back then and e…

Steve Jobs was all about the customer experience, hence so many of his famous quotes. Two like the most are: - Him saying "Microsoft has no style", not because I care about ribbing on Microsoft but because it indicated that Apple was a company that really cared about the aesthetics of both their hardware and software products - His response to the question why there was no $600 MacBook to compete with Windows plastic…

This is a common trajectory for companies. The first CEO (founder) paves a vision, the second CEO grows the firm profitably, the third CEO is usually a wall street hire on a mandate to massage the stock price.

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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Maybe I'm just scarred from the late 90s internet, but I have assumed that every ad on every website is a scam at all times for as long as I can remember. Which is why I block ads unconditionally everywhere that I can.

I'm old enough to consider TV ads as scams too. "For only 6 payments of 19.99!" The "mute" button on my parents' remote control was worn off. I still mute ads that I get through low-tier streaming subscriptions. It's really jarring to go to a friend's house where they don't mute their ads.

Heck, I've even seen scam ads in printed local newspapers. They typically target seniors with a thing for collecting rare coins and use misleading language about the U.S. Mint.

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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The only way out of this is to make ad platforms liable for scam ads. At the moment it's simply too profitable to print lies.

Kids today learning about the FTC and standards... we used to be a real country, with real laws that actually helped real people.

Bernie Sanders on reversing America's decline

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/05/we-can...

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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Apple News and News+ represent everything wrong with modern Apple: a ham-fisted approach to simplicity that ignores the end user. It is their most mediocre service, jarringly jamming cheap clickbait next to serious journalism in a layout that makes no sense. The technical execution is just as lazy. While some magazines are tailored, many are just flat, low-res PDFs that look terrible on the high-end Retina screens Ap…

Ever since Apple moved to Services Strategy in 2014 it has been like this. Services were not there so they could provide a better experience for its " customers ". I use the word " customer " here which is what Apple / Steve Jobs used to call their loyal fans, and not user . But to further growth their Revenue pie because they foresee iPhone one day will stagnant. You now have Apple Fitness+, Apple TV, News, Music, A…

As someone who owns zero apple hardware, I feel like Apple TV (the service) is probably the most consistent producer of high quality TV shows.

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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This is a bit silly. Are there any ads that people do trust?

Ads for products I already use. Probably 90% of the stuff in your house has been advertised somewhere. A good number of the books on my shelves advertise other books by the same author in the back (some of these are order forms, many are not), and I certainly do use them to see what's the next book in a series of what reviewers have had to say about other books by the author. Heck, some of the objects I own and use daily (hopefully lower than average) is itself advertising, such as the branded Crayola desk lamp I'm using.

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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post #110

Apple News and News+ represent everything wrong with modern Apple: a ham-fisted approach to simplicity that ignores the end user. It is their most mediocre service, jarringly jamming cheap clickbait next to serious journalism in a layout that makes no sense. The technical execution is just as lazy. While some magazines are tailored, many are just flat, low-res PDFs that look terrible on the high-end Retina screens Ap…

Ever since Apple moved to Services Strategy in 2014 it has been like this. Services were not there so they could provide a better experience for its " customers ". I use the word " customer " here which is what Apple / Steve Jobs used to call their loyal fans, and not user . But to further growth their Revenue pie because they foresee iPhone one day will stagnant. You now have Apple Fitness+, Apple TV, News, Music, A…

They tried to kill _competitors'_ ads. Everyone else gets "Ask Not to Track" while Apple gets "Personalized Ads." It's so glaring once you see it.

Re: I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

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I've missed the entire shittification cycle of Apple News which was added in iOS 10. Around that update, I always put any new default Apple apps (being added every iOS update), including Apple News into a folder I named "utilities" in case I ever needed them. Thanks for the heads up. I'll update the name to trash right now.
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