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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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If you are German, then you are probably blind to the similarities between current German politics and the Nazis, so this is not a good point of comparison.

Yeeeaaaah, I dunno if you wanna go there while the US is investing $100B in state sponsored ethnic cleansing, terrorism, and concentration camps. Glass houses, stones, etc.

Germany invests less than that, but Germany is a smaller country. I'm not sure how much it is per capita.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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If you are German, then you are probably blind to the similarities between current German politics and the Nazis, so this is not a good point of comparison.

Which politics are you referring to? The AfD ("Alternative for Germany") who has been classified as a confirmed right-wing extremist organization by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution? And which has heavy ties to trump, musk, and the current U.S. government? Just because we currently have our own right wing populist faschists rearing their heads again, doesn't mean that the parallels of the cur…

All parties of the government support and pay for ethnic cleansing in the middle east.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Illegal immigration enforcement/code is civil, not criminal. If it was criminal, enforcement would require giving suspected offenders actual Article III judge hearings pre-every deporations, not use immigration court, etc. You know, rights. If you lot want to change it to criminal, go for it. But don't lie. People lose their shit when the Constitution is violated. When civil norms are violated in evil ways. When peop…

My argument is not about the legality, but selectivity of the outrage. Somehow if it's politically beneficial there are a ton of people outraged, and in other times like the pedophile scandal of the century, with a lot of powerful people in it, no one seams to really care.

Funny because the first line of your point is "The last time I looked illegal immigration is still illegal." so specifically about the legality, and I explained what you said is not true, and that if it was these people would have legal protections that match what the Constitution requires and the public would be way less upset.

It sounds like you don't really care about the law, or people that want the constitution enforced, you care about the politics and if it the Constitution is politically inconvenient. Following the Constitution is ALWAYS the politically correct choice in the USA. Choosing the law over 'civil immigration enforcement' used as a loophole to bypass the law/Constitution is always the correct choice.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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"We also as individuals [without billions] have fairly limited capacity to directly act against these things. I donate a fair bit to the EFF for instance and I've sent outreach to representatives multiple times over the years for specific bills and when its possible I vote against surveillance." - from a parallel thread I was commenting in. I'm totally fine stopping at minimizing my culpability. I sleep just fine at…

Then don’t jump into a conversation as though you have some answer if all you’re doing is virtue signaling that you’re detached

> Don't lump me in that "we". I did no such thing. I know exactly how it could be abused and have spent 12 years intentionally not working for companies that perpetuate it.

I don't think you know how to read because I certainly didn't do that. But also go fuck yourself.

This is why no one cares about your causes btw because weird angry little dudes isn't a good look.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Don't lump me in that "we". I did no such thing. I know exactly how it could be abused and have spent 12 years intentionally not working for companies that perpetuate it.

We are all very impressed, I assure you.

Going by the upvotes I have generally yes people do seem to think so. It's only weird folks like you and the other guy that seem to have a problem.

It's exactly why I don't do more because I really don't want to be associated with people like you folks.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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You are right, I do acknowledge their efforts but did not do so here, which I should have. I don't necessarily mean to berate the public, but rather the politicians, who saw that they could use social media/big tech for their own personal gain, and the media, who went along with the narrative that putting all our public communication into privately owned platforms was good for democracy. And maybe our own governments…

Several years ago in Stockholm (2014) during a conference focus on the Internet, the Chief Technology Officer for Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign held a talk on how they revolutionary the campaign process by using targeted advertisement campaign on social networks, mostly Facebook, and how effective the technique was to reach voters during fund raising and getting their voters to vote. In their view, this wa…

Yes! I distinctly remember the time magazine issue and article about this. This is exactly what I mean: we normalize and celebrate technologies without realizing what the repercussions are when we give the same tools and power to others.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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It is the exact same thing, with a different outgroup.

No it obviously is not. You do not have a right to stay in a country illegally, anywhere in this world. If you want to migrate to a country, you need that country's permission. Without it you are an illegal alien and will, at the minimum, be removed from that country as soon as you are caught. In many places in this world you then may end up in detention - potentially indefinitely, imprisoned, fined, and so on. The U…

You did not have a right to stay in Germany as a Jew either. My point exactly.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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We are all very impressed, I assure you.

Going by the upvotes I have generally yes people do seem to think so. It's only weird folks like you and the other guy that seem to have a problem. It's exactly why I don't do more because I really don't want to be associated with people like you folks.

Well one thing we can be sure of is your self regard.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Going by the upvotes I have generally yes people do seem to think so. It's only weird folks like you and the other guy that seem to have a problem. It's exactly why I don't do more because I really don't want to be associated with people like you folks.

Well one thing we can be sure of is your self regard.

Yes because not assenting to the anon rando who makes a snide insulting comment is outside the bounds of normal well regulated self interest. I can't possibly eyeroll any harder at you.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

We don’t have good data because it’s illegal to, for example, ask citizenship status on our census, but if you believe the numbers many democrats cite, Obama deported more immigrants than Trump. You can use Google to verify that though I’ll warn you the rabbit hole runs deep when it comes to official statistics. Importantly, under Trump we have far more violent felons to deport. The media thrives on salacious and emo…

The number of deportations under obama was definitely higher, but he had only one concentration camp (guantanamo bay), and didn't use that for his own people.

Learn about the tolerance paradoxon, there is no negotiating, nuance and reasoning with fashists.

Your enlightened centrism is nothing but smoke and mirrors. Get educated.

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