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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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hightrix wrote: post #337
marssaxman wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. They really won't, though; Microsoft just does this kind of thing, over and over and over. Before everything was named "365", it was all "One", before that it was "Live"... 20 years ago, everything was called ".NET" whether it had anything to do with the Internet or not. Back in the '90s they went crazy for a while calling everything "Active…

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by codazoda »

jckahn wrote: post #121
paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

Yeah I don't understand why everyone seems to have forgotten about the Gemini options. Antigravity, Jules, and Gemini CLI are as good as the alternatives but are way more cost effective. I want for nothing with my $20/mo Google AI plan.

It's crazy that we're having such different experiences. I purchased the Google AI plan as an alternative to my ChatGPT (Codex) daily driver. I use Gemini a fair amount at work, so I thought it would be a good choice to use personally. I used it a few times but ran into limits the first few projects I worked on. As a result I switched to Claude and so, far, I haven't hit any limits.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by codazoda »

whalee wrote: post #145
paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

I think counter to the assumption of myself (and many), for long form agent coding tasks, models are not as easily hot swappable as I thought. I have developed decent intuition on what kinds of problems Codex, Claude, Cursor(& sub-variants), Composer etc. will or will not be able to do well across different axes of speed, correctness, architectural taste, ... If I had to reflect on why I still don't use Gemini, it's…

I feel like "prompting language" doesn't translate over perfectly either. It's like we become experts at operating a particular AI agent.

I've been experimenting with small local models and the types of prompts you use with these are very different than the ones you use with Claude Code. It seems less different between Claude, Codex, and Gemini but there are differences.

It's hard to articulate those differences but I think that I kind of get in a groove after using models for a while.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

adventured wrote: post #267
ksec wrote: post #243

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Exactly. In the 50 years history of Microsoft, Office ( Year ) was perhaps the best they did. Nadella might have fixed a few things, but Microsoft still have massive room for improvement in many areas.

Nadella has the golden ship taking on water right now. He has entirely botched AI top to bottom. He has screwed that up to such a degree that it would be difficult to overstate. If he doesn't correct these mistakes extremely soon, he'll unravel much of the progress he made for Microsoft and they'll miss this generation of advancement (which will be the end of their $3 trillion market cap - as the market has recently…

I am no big fan of MS, and especially not a fan of W11, but you're operating under the false assumption that their users are still their most important customers.

MS's bottom line doesn't depend on how happy users are with W11, especially not power users like ourselves. W11 is just a means of selling subscriptions (office, ai, etc). The question isn't 'are users happy' it's 'will OEMs and business continue to push it?'. The answer to that is almost certainly yes. OEMs aren't going to be selling most pcs with ubuntu included any time soon. Businesses are not going to support libreoffice when MS office is the established standard.

Maybe apple could make inroads here, but they don't seem willing to give up their profit margins on overpriced hardware, and I don't think I've ever seen them release anything 'office' related that was anywhere near feature parity with MSO, and especially not cross platform.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by vlowther »

stackghost wrote: post #330
anonymars wrote: post #315

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Ha, I stand corrected. Maybe Microsoft could reach out to the owners of LinkedIn to convince them to improve it. Oh, wait...

>LinkedIn You mean Microsoft Career Copilot 365?

Microsoft Active Career Copilot 365 ONE, thankyouverymuch.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by rdsubhas »

kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

So I guess the same situation as with Google Gemini.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by wasmainiac »

marssaxman wrote: post #294
kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

> Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. They really won't, though; Microsoft just does this kind of thing, over and over and over. Before everything was named "365", it was all "One", before that it was "Live"... 20 years ago, everything was called ".NET" whether it had anything to do with the Internet or not. Back in the '90s they went crazy for a while calling everything "Active…

NT..? Good comment made me laugh.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by adamrezich »

lionkor wrote: post #263
adamrezich wrote: post #200

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> Laptops sell with Copilot buttons now. Is it the context menu key? Or did they do another Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Win+L thing?

Oh no it's a new key and it's on your keyboard.

Apparently it's Win+Shift+F23.
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