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Post by matheusmoreira »

tolerance wrote: post #278
matheusmoreira wrote: post #263

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> Perhaps the likelihood of it escalating was slim. Not as slim as he had hoped. People feel free to close the door on others because they are used to a life without violence. Their implicit thinking is "I'm not even gonna consider what this other person wants because what's he gonna do about it? Nothing." They think there is no way they will be held accountable for their actions. That's magical thinking. People real…

Who hurt you?

It's not about me. It's about the author of TFA, the person who was hurting him and how he made him stop.

Just two people exercising their freedoms. Officially, nothing happened. It's just two guys randomly using their TV remotes at roughly the same time. If police had been called, they wouldn't have been able to do anything about it.

Yet a game was played. One turned up the volume, the other remotely turned off the TV in response. On and on it went until the volume would no longer get turned up. Victory.

Note that the neighbor never figured out who was doing it. There's no way to know what he would have done in that case. Maybe nothing. Maybe something.

I'm just saying hackers should probably think twice before liberally applying their boundless ingenuity to social problems like these. It can work wonders. It can also escalate things so far beyond their control that it's not even funny. They could easily end up on the receiving end of some serious conditioning of their own.

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Post by sdeframond »

WA wrote: post #107
binaryturtle wrote: post #14

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I wish there was an easy solution like this for smoking "neighbours". Some sort of detection device that instantly closes my windows automatically and then "explodes" a nasty "stinking bomb" outside (e.g. automatic opening of a container with butyric acid or similar), so it smells worse than their smoke. Eventually their brains would connect smoking with nasty stinking and stop doing it. But I wouldn't know where to…

No smokers in my neighborhood, but people use their goddamn fireplaces too much and it’s kinda impossible to get fresh air in winter evenings and often during the day. Not sure how to train them. And unfortunately, there are too many. Burning wood should be forbidden in residential areas. It’s similar to smoking in restaurants, except you can’t escape them.

Burning wood is acutally forbidden in many cities in France for this very reason.

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Post by laggyluke »

irishcoffee wrote: post #316
taneq wrote: post #286

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But the guy did it himself. Must have gone insane.

Ignoring the entirety of the rest of this story, I desperately want to know why: "Fortunately it landed in the garden on the other side." was so notable.

Because it didn't land on someone's head?

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Post by galaxyLogic »

I use rain-sounds or white noise plus noise-cancelling headphones to drown out my neighbor's TV. It bugs me that I have to hear advertisements coming over the wall when I wake up. If I'm really pissed off I turn on some reggae music with good bass. It always calms me down.

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Post by LoveMortuus »

tensor wrote: post #288
unsupp0rted wrote: post #98

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Usually people who are that inconsiderate don’t change. Or they quickly change and then quickly change back.

Morning people are often inconsiderate to night people and let alone change they simply judge night people for not getting up at fuck you o’clock. Usually morning people don’t change and are inconsiderate their whole lives.

Baseless accusations, because what bothers night people in the morning, bothers morning people in the night.

The only real difference is how much you care about how your actions impact the environment and people around you.

I wake up early, because I work early, I don't make any sound, my flatmate (I rent a room from the company) works late and always stays up late, they make so much noise that they keep waking me up to the point that I had to report them to the company.

It doesn't matter if you're a night or a morning person, what matters is, are you considerate or not.

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Post by djmips »

its_ubuntu wrote: post #240
j-conn wrote: post #182

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100% agree, many people don’t realize just how harmful wood smoke is. It’s also the main source of pollution in the Bay Area during the winter. Unfortunately energy costs are high enough here that people resort to burning wood to save money, so collectively beneficial policies are likely to face resistance (understandably). The purpleair map has been awesome to at least make the problem visible. I hope they are using…

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Putting aside the debate about harm, it's very annoying filling the shared air with wood smoke. I'm glad you think you're invulnerable to smoke.

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Post by 47282847 »

its_ubuntu wrote: post #335
ornornor wrote: post #333

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You’re the one claiming smoking cigarettes don’t give lung cancer and it’s all a big conspiracy to mess with you. So the onus in on you to show that smoking cigarettes doesn’t cause lung cancer despite the overwhelming amount t of scientific evidence that it does.

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Do you really think your aggressive behavior will convince anyone that you’re fine and healthy and it’s just everybody else that isn’t?

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Post by handoflixue »

ornornor wrote: post #317
blazers777 wrote: post #227

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it's impossible to tell who is normal in these stories. for example, the guy can start smoking inside, and it will always smell like smoke. or, the guy can get his own buzzer. i've had oversensitive neighbors sit there and bang on pots all night because fireworks or construction noise. like another comment mentioned, apartments are just built really badly. you can hear anything. which leads to friends of mine complai…

The rule is simple IMO: whatever you’re doing, if it impacts people beyond your own sphere then you’re the problematic one. Playing loud music, your neighbours can hear it => you’re the problem Smoking and having the smoke pollute your neighbours air => you’re the problem

Your comment impacted me, so I assume you'll post an apology for this deeply problematic behavior of yours?

Plenty of times the fault is with the apartment, etc.: if the reasonable noise of me living disrupts my neighbors, that's bad design. Different people work different shifts - I don't see why the morning person should have to hold off on a morning shower just because the plumbing wakes up their neighbor, nor why the night-shift worker should have to hold off on doing laundry just because that wakes the morning person up.

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