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Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Another case where AI = "actually Indians". It's funny how often this has happened.

I remember this case the one who put "Actually Indians" in my mind. What other instances do you know? (Not to refute your point, of course, I am just curious)

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Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Truckers are the biggest demo but it's sold under a generic category.

huh. What's the product listing? I don't think this story rings true.

All of the replies to this comment: "The fact that I thought it was real says a lot" [0]

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Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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I feel like they artificially made their prices super low for the last couple years and intentionally operated at a loss as a business tactic to force out competition and kill off local grocery stores. There were instances of their prices being lower than Walmart or other budget stores. The avocados were $0.25 each and carrots were half price of ones in Safeway, even ground beef was weirdly cheap. One time as a compa…

Walmart isn't a budget grocery store, though. Its prices are higher than actual grocery stores (like Safeway.) Also, everyone is WAY cheaper than Instacart.

Not in the areas of California I frequent. Walmart is usually the cheapest around here; heck, even Target beats Safeway on some items. On the other hand, Walmart is also usually the worst at stock rotation.

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Maybe the one where you flagged down a car on the street, but you could always call to book a taxi and those companies worked exactly like Uber — over the phone, because it was the pre–app era.

Uber also gives you a price upfront, and that is the most you will pay (+ tip, if you feel like it). I don't remember pre-mobile phone taxi system that gave you a price upfront. They used to list the price per mile, and then it was up to you to figure out the distance and make sure the driver took a reasonably short route. So no, the old taxi companies did NOT work "exactly like" Uber.

I've seen more than a few people on this forum assert that the old taxi system was/is comparable to Uber or somehow better. I even got some shit for referring to it as old, legacy, I forget the exact verbiage I used. But it is old, and it is worse. I get the price upfront, I can adjust the "class" of car I order if I'm going to the pharmacy alone or to a nice dinner. Calling ahead to preorder a taxi feels like calling to order a pizza over the phone at this point. If I called, would they even know how to handle it?

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Why would they face consequences? Every store has video surveillance that can be reviewed. They trusted their tech enough to accept the false-positive rate, then worked to determine / validate their false positive rate with manual review, and iterate their models with the data. From a consumer perspective the point is that you can "just walk out". They delivered that.

Their initial advertising claimed near full automation by their "AI" system when, in reality, they had people manually handling around 70% of the transactions. I get that this is a message board for YC, so lying about your company's tech is considered almost a virtue but that is an unreasonably big lie to tell without getting your hand-slapped by some regulatory body or investor backlash.

Well that's because, again, it was indeed algorithms doing the work, and the people were only used to verify / train the system, after the fact. People keep, intentionally, conflating the two things, doing everything in their power to say (or strongly imply), that the people involved were managing the orders in real time, which is a lie. You are the one pushing misinformation here.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Did he have a patent?

I just looked it up - yes, and far in advance of the timeframe This is (or was) a very small business. An office and a warehouse, basically.

Can you link to the patent?

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Illegal in what way? They are not allowed to set prices lower than competitors or raise them at any time?

Predatory pricing is illegal in the US, but difficult to prosecute under the existing laws.

What is “predatory pricing” vs. “pricing”?

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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post #344

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Uber also gives you a price upfront, and that is the most you will pay (+ tip, if you feel like it). I don't remember pre-mobile phone taxi system that gave you a price upfront. They used to list the price per mile, and then it was up to you to figure out the distance and make sure the driver took a reasonably short route. So no, the old taxi companies did NOT work "exactly like" Uber.

I've seen more than a few people on this forum assert that the old taxi system was/is comparable to Uber or somehow better. I even got some shit for referring to it as old, legacy, I forget the exact verbiage I used. But it is old, and it is worse. I get the price upfront, I can adjust the "class" of car I order if I'm going to the pharmacy alone or to a nice dinner. Calling ahead to preorder a taxi feels like callin…

Obviously we live in a different era now where things are ordered by apps instead of websites or phone calls, but those used to be socially acceptable ways to order things.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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These were absolutely incredible when they first opened up right on until covid. The blue-apron style meal kits they had were actually really tasty and the gimmicky integration with Alexa to tell you the next step in the recipe was actually kind of useful when you were busy stirring a pot or cutting something and too busy to pull out the recipe card. It was like a 7-Eleven, but with the prices of a normal grocery store and higher quality prepared food. Not needing to deal with checkout felt freeing. I substituted many grocery store runs with a quick walk over to the original Amazon Go back in the day.

After covid, it was never the same. Open for shorter windows, closed on Sundays, reduced selection, no more meal kits etc.

I had many friends who worked on Amazon Go, so it's a bit sad to see that work come to an end.

Re: Amazon closing its Fresh and Go stores

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Predatory pricing is illegal in the US, but difficult to prosecute under the existing laws.

Which means it’s actually: legal and widespread

No it means it’s illegal and enforcement agencies don’t have the means and/or political support to prosecute.
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