Porsche sold more electrified cars in Europe in 2025 than pure gas-powered cars

Post by AdamN » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 9:12 AM UTC

Gravityloss wrote: post #336

whatever1 wrote: post #334

Porsche was on the brink of bankruptcy. Then they started making SUVs. It turned out the SUVs are the ones that are bringing in all the cash to the company. The audience of Porsche SUVs (cayenne, macan) care about signaling wealth via the badge. But they mostly want an everyday car for their commute, groceries / kid pickup. No wonder the EVs options sell better. They have the badge, and are better at everyday tasks.…

Hmm this comment gives the impression that electric Porsches are bad to drive and are only bought for the badge and convenience, like the SUV:s. I haven't driven a Taycan so can't say but I would assume it's not so. (And also it doesn't look like a convenient car.)

Post by david-gpu » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 9:17 AM UTC

joe_mamba wrote: post #337

nikanj wrote: post #331

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Look at the average car payment in the US, and the average car sale price The ”americans can’t afford EVs” argument falls totally apart when the average(!) sale price is over $50k and you can get a perfectly good Leaf for $25k

Good point but that can be explained by familiarity inertia. People who have 50k to blow on a new car are anything but young buyers, with the average age of a new car buyer in the US is around 53 years old. And boomers and gen-X are used to owning ICEs, so there you go. Millennials and Zoomers would be more open to EV adoption but they have a lot less disposable income to buy new cars.

Post by csomar » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 9:26 AM UTC

riffraff wrote: post #267

csomar wrote: post #195

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China's 2025 numbers are out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_veh... They're up roughly 10% over last year and will likely hit 35% of global production. The big shift over the last decade (beyond their growing market share) is that their overall quality has caught up to (and in many cases surpassed) the traditional incumbents. Barring a global war, I think they're unstoppable at this point.

I remember when Japan was supposed to take over the world in the '80s, to the point that "back to the future 2" had Americans speaking Japanese to their managers. Toyota did become the dominant producer, but American and European car makers (and now Koreans and Chinese) are still around. I wouldn't bet on total domination from China anytime soon.

Post by rcMgD2BwE72F » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 9:30 AM UTC

olyjohn wrote: post #135

hnburnsy wrote: post #86

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Consumers don't realize they are getting the worst of both worlds with added weight, complexity, repairs, inefficiency, and costs along with potential reliability (ex-Toyota) Not to mention studies that show PHEV owners frequently don't plug in.

Well those owners are idiots. That says nothing about the car. You can't exclude Toyota when you make the claim that hybrids are unreliable and inefficient either. They have proven that they can be reliable and efficient. Hybrids aren't running around doing 30 miles a day with a 300 mile battery like most EVs. Talk about inefficient!

Post by muvlon » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 9:32 AM UTC

Gravityloss wrote: post #336

whatever1 wrote: post #334

Porsche was on the brink of bankruptcy. Then they started making SUVs. It turned out the SUVs are the ones that are bringing in all the cash to the company. The audience of Porsche SUVs (cayenne, macan) care about signaling wealth via the badge. But they mostly want an everyday car for their commute, groceries / kid pickup. No wonder the EVs options sell better. They have the badge, and are better at everyday tasks.…

Hmm this comment gives the impression that electric Porsches are bad to drive and are only bought for the badge and convenience, like the SUV:s. I haven't driven a Taycan so can't say but I would assume it's not so. (And also it doesn't look like a convenient car.)