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Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by port11 »

shell0x wrote: post #165

1. I don't think I'll ever buy Dell again. My current monitor is a Dell S3221QS 32" screen and it has vertical lines and starts flickering on both the Macbook M1 and the Mac Studio with the M4 Max chip after some time, which is a known issue[0][1]. It also defaults to YPbPr colors rather than RGB/SRGB, so the colors look off. I'm using HDMI to HDMI connectivity currently. Part of it is also my fault as I thought a mo…

I bought a refurbished P24-something, basically the last 4K monitor I could find that was 24” or smaller — 4k @ 27+ looks bad for me. That Dell has been amazing. Just a counterpoint :)

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by LtdJorge »

masklinn wrote: post #275
LtdJorge wrote: post #140

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Exactly, that’s the point

That’s not a point it’s nonsense thought termination. There’s a gulf between 130 dpi and 460 dpi, and in that gulf there are densities which stop being poor at monitor viewing distances. That smartphone densities are excessive for that purpose does not make middling standard densities good.

I have an LG OLED C3 as a monitor, 42". I may be able to distinguish separate pixels if looking at a '.' or something like that (a stuck pixel happened for a few weeks, which I could notice on a white background).

But the density is definitely enough for text for the distance required for such a screen size. At least when using grayscale AA, because OLED subpixel...

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by aljarry »

shell0x wrote: post #165

1. I don't think I'll ever buy Dell again. My current monitor is a Dell S3221QS 32" screen and it has vertical lines and starts flickering on both the Macbook M1 and the Mac Studio with the M4 Max chip after some time, which is a known issue[0][1]. It also defaults to YPbPr colors rather than RGB/SRGB, so the colors look off. I'm using HDMI to HDMI connectivity currently. Part of it is also my fault as I thought a mo…

I had a strange problem with Dell P2720DC (27'' 2560x1440) - the whole outer edge of the screen would flicker if I used dark background with a lot of dim colours (like dark mode in IDE, or default Grafana theme). It wouldn't happen all the time, but it would happen on a weekly basis (I most often seen that on Sunday). I've RMA'd it, got another monitor, which also started showing the same problem. I gave it to someone who doesn't use dark mode - no issues.

So, I'm not getting another Dell until I'd be sure this issue won't happen again :)

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by sigy »

I ordered this within 30 minutes of learning about it. I've been waiting for something like this. Here's why:

- My eyes are getting older, and I need a better visual connection to my work.

- We spend much of our lives in front of these devices. Optimizing this just makes sense.

- It is more than just a monitor with some features. It's a well-rounded kit with good software support.

- I previously used multiple 4K monitors and external KVMs. The built-in KVM and management software that works with the display makes multi-system use as easy as it could possibly be.

- The resolution has _more than_ overcome the issues I had with font rendering on lower resolutions while trying to have more visual workspace.

- The thunderbolt hub has vastly reduced multi-system USB/wiring/speed clutter and confusion.

Yes, it was expensive. Yes, I'm very happy with it. Within this week, it has drastically improved my sense of comfort and utility, and I got rid of all the other monitors.

Ok, for the gripes:

- The curvature is a bit minor compared to what I'm used to. Given the spatial density I want, the optimal distance is less than 30" from the display, and with my aging eyes at this distance, looking from center to edge changes my focal depth by more than a small amount. That said, the off-axis views are quite good. Essentially, looking at this display from a longer distance wastes much of the effective ocular resolution.

- The software is great, but if you want something more tactile, reaching to the sole multi-purpose menu stick is not that great. It wouldn't have hurt for them to provide a USB-connected desktop switch. I hope they still do. This monitor runs its own "OS" of sorts, and can be extended with new functionality should they choose to.

- Finding the improved dynamic range took a bit of learning. The way it works feels better (less of a special case) for me, but I had to go adjust the settings to tap into higher resolution per color plane.

If anybody has any specific questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by sigy »

libertine wrote: post #303
madmod wrote: post #157

I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing. All of that cost less than this one monitor.

I was going to comment about the price, but you kind of wrapped it up. It's like the most popular form of innovation nowadays is just marginally nicer products with a massive premium on them - and I don't get how this is sustainable. Or maybe there's just way more people with massive amounts of disposable income than I realize... There's no breakthrough of like "here's an amazing product, and by the way, it's for eve…

I disagree with this take. Particularly because this isn't just a little more of this or that. It's a well-integrated set of features that should have already been on the market in some form, but wasn't really. And it's also a premium setup in terms of each feature individually. It really does feel like the whole is more than the sum of its parts in practical terms.

I don't feel FOMO. I'm thinking more "why did it take this long?"

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by byproxy »

madmod wrote: post #260
byproxy wrote: post #171

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What Genelecs are you using??

They are the tiny 8010s. I don't produce much with this setup so accurate near field monitoring was all that I needed. I love how crystal clear the high end is with these. I bought them used and they were pretty beat up. I take them traveling so as an anti theft measure I painted them neon green and covered them in stickers to make them look cheap. They are mounted on magic arms to the aluminum extrusion. I also have…

Oh, nice! Yea, was wondering what Genelecs, combined with your other gear, could be less than the price of this monitor. Makes sense that it’s the smaller ones!

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by craftkiller »

joshstrange wrote: post #94
smilebot wrote: post #31

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And no extra charge to have an adjustable stand! How do they make money?

By having fewer pixels, lower quality screens? Crazy what you can do when you cut corners. This screen reminds of when I did tech support in high school and I helped a guy who bragged about his computer monitor, it was a TV running at 720p (if not lower) and a massive screen. The windows start bar was hilariously large (as were all UI elements), I had to just smile and nod until I got out of there. Sure, your screen…

> By having fewer pixels

I thought samdixon was referencing the Apple Pro Display XDR? If so, Apple has fewer pixels.

Apple Pro XDR: 6016 x 3384

Kuycon G32P: 6144 x 3456

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by wlonkly »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #311
ffsm8 wrote: post #250

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I got the 49" version of the dell Alienware display (basically this one size down with different branding and stand)... . From my perspective you're looking at it incorrectly, the point isn't to be able to look at everything at the same time, it's to be able to quickly glance from the one side to another. Let's say I have an ide open, I will likely not look at the directory structure often, but I want an easy way to…

I used to be happy with virtual desktops. Then I switched to macOS. What a mess it is: from the irritating virtual desktop animations that delay you, to the annoying keyboard shortcuts that don’t work in full screen mode, I’ve decided to just move on to multiple monitors or maybe one big display.

And it used to be better -- you could use TotalSpaces which would make Spaces two-dimensional and let you turn off the animation. But they took that from us!

There is a way of using Stage Manager as though it was Spaces, with minimal animations, but it takes a lot of getting used to and it's still not great.

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